[newtrk] Re: New NEWTRK mailing list to discuss old draft/ps specs

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Tue, 30 November 2004 13:54 UTC

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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:29:53 +0100
From: Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>
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Subject: [newtrk] Re: New NEWTRK mailing list to discuss old draft/ps specs
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Good initiative. I trust you won't forget this step in the decruft draft:

>     o  For each standard to be reviewed, the Committee sends out a
>        message to the IETF list and the lists deemed relevant, asking for
>        implementation experience and active usage.

    Brian

Eliot Lear wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> 
> The NEWTRK WG has been discussing draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-01 for
> some time now. The WG has consensus that it would be worthwhile to
> run an experiment to figure out whether the process suggested can
> be achieved.
> 
> 
> This is a call for participants in that experiment.
> 
> 
> A new mailing list "old-standards@alvestrand.no" has been created to
> discuss those documents that have not made full Internet standard and 
> are beyond the time limits stated in RFC 2026. After a suitable time 
> we'll organize ourselves and come up with a list of documents that we 
> believe (a) should be left alone (b) should be marked Historic or (c) 
> should be advanced. We'll create a record of the documents discussed 
> and produce a recommendation that the NEWTRK working group will then 
> consider. We are aiming to have some sampling to take to the next IETF 
> meeting in Minneapolis in March.
> 
> 
> The group will decide which documents to consider, criteria to make a
> determination, and then proceed to take such actions necessary to make a
> determination, perhaps iteratively, this being an experiment.
> 
> 
> Aside from the list of documents, their outcomes, and their reasons,
> hopefully the list will provide useful input into ways to update
> draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt.
> 
> 
> I would like to invite any and all interested parties to participate.
> 
> 
> To subscribe, go to the following web page:
> 
> 
> http://eikenes.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/old-standards
> 
> 
> Eliot
> 
> 
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