RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00
Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org> Tue, 06 April 2004 17:14 UTC
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:03:44 -0700
From: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
Subject: RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00
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To: 'Alex Rousskov' <rousskov@measurement-factory.com>
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I don't think you have summarized my position; I think that formalizing and encouraging the declaration of the state of a draft in the draft itself (rather than a pointer to where this could be found) is a bad idea. If it were the case that the state of the draft was always known at time of publication of the draft, it would be different. Consider 'writers' and 'readers', in two cases: 1. In cases where the state of the draft changes after the draft comes out, putting the state in the draft itself is counter-productive; it was unnecessary work for writers and is potentially confusing to readers. This is especially troubling when disagreement appears after it seemed as if there was consensus. 2. In cases where the state is known before the draft is published, it still adds work for writers and has marginal utility for readers, since the readers still have to go to some web page to see whether the state has changed since the draft was published. Futher, consider how adding this section will change people's behavior: I think it would encourage people to delay publishing drafts until the state is 'known'. But the best way to decide on the state is to publish the draft and ask people to review the actual document, instead of talking about abstract points that don't actually appear in the document. It's been my experience that convergence on status only comes after there is an actual draft that contains the text that you think there was agreement on a particular point, and people are able to read the text in context. So I think it's counter-productive to encourage people to put the status in the drafts. Larry . newtrk resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/index.html
- [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Alex Rousskov
- RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Larry Masinter
- Re: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Spencer Dawkins
- RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Alex Rousskov
- Re: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Alex Rousskov
- RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Larry Masinter
- RE: [newtrk] draft-rousskov-newtrk-id-state-00 Alex Rousskov