RE: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04.txt
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John & Brian, >> If we have designations like STD-0007-is for standards, is there any >> reason we shouldn't have designations like STD-0007-isd for >>associated descriptors (in cases where they exist)? > >That had not occurred to me, but, yes, this could be a way to >identify ISDs without requiring that they be available for >everything and so constitutes an implicit transition plan. > >It might, however, sacrifice one of the original goals of the >ISD -- that it, and not the technical specifications it >normatively references, essentially become the standard. >Unless ISDs are generally available and pervasive, we lose the >main goal of John Loughney's "what standard" draft, i.e., very >clear identification of what makes up the standard and how the >pieces are related for procurement or implementation purposes. > That is (or was) also one of the key differences between the >ISD concept and Doug's SRD concept, at least as I understand >it: ISDs were expected to be normative and standard-defining, >which SRDs are relatively less formal reference pieces. Which >is better can be argued either way, but the community needs to >decide. And the type of reference pairing you suggest might >be a reasonable intermediate step either way. I'm not wedded to my idea, but I do note that I had a lot of possitive feedback about proposing some solution to actually defining what a standard is, and I'm using standard in a broad sense. I'm hearing lots of complaints that implementing IETF protocols is becoming quite difficult as implementaters have to rifle through a half a dozen or so RFCs just to implement a protocol; or the IETF needs to charter a WG just so we can figure out what we mean. YMMV, John . newtrk resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/index.html
- [newtrk] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing… Internet-Drafts
- [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04.txt Douglas Otis
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… John C Klensin
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… John C Klensin
- [newtrk] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-newtrk-repurpo… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-newtrk-rep… John C Klensin
- RE: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… john.loughney
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Douglas Otis
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Douglas Otis
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] draft-ietf-newtrk-repurposing-isd-04… Douglas Otis