Re: [nfsv4] Extended Attributes NFSv4

Hi Matt-

I don't recall us rejecting RFC 8276 in general. My sense of the
room was we were not sensing good alignment between user extended
attributes as specified in RFC 8276 and their use for conveying
data reduction metadata, as proposed in

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-faibish-data-reduction-xattrs-pvt/ .

By the way, Sorin, you should rename this document, when you submit
the next revision, to include "nfsv4" in the name so it appears on
the NFSv4 WG page where it is easy to find. Something like

draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes

would work.

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Matt Benjamin <mbenjami@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> I was not aware that this had been rejected?
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 12:42 PM David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The NFSv4 WG rejected the idea of using extended attributes that were specified in the rfc 8276.
>> 
>> I don't'  think the working group considered and rejected the idea using extended attributes,   Making a decision like that is way to organized for an IETF working group, espec.
>> 
>> Tha
>>> It seems nobody implemented xattr per the rfc. If you have any plans for that please let the NFSv4 WG know sending this email to the nfsv4 list I added here. Thanks
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 11:47 AM <Faibish.Sorin@dell.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Victor,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just to keep you expectations low, the NFSv4 WG rejected the idea of using extended attributes that were specified in the rfc 8276. It seems nobody implemented xattr per the rfc. If you have any plans for that please let the NFSv4 WG know sending this email to the nfsv4 list I added here. Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ./Sorin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Victor A Asencio Casiano <victor.asencio@upr.edu>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:43 AM
>>> To: faibish, sorin; Shilane, Philip; Black, David
>>> Cc: manoj.naik@nutanix.com; eshel@us.ibm.com
>>> Subject: Extended Attributes NFSv4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
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>>> Good morning, I’m currently interested in adding extended attributes to NFSv4 and I would like if you can send me in the right direction. RFC 8276 and your draft (Support for Data Reduction Extended Attributes in nfsv4 Version 2) are the only serious documents that I found about this topic. I would like to know if Extended Attributes have been already implemented somewhere that I can test it out, or If someone try to implement this before or any source code that I can reach out or any draft code? Besides the code portions that appears on RFC 8276.
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>>> Thanks for your help.
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