Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4.2
Spencer Shepler <shepler@storspeed.com> Tue, 18 August 2009 16:35 UTC
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Thanks for pulling this together, Mike. I will be working with Lars for updates to the charter. Spencer On Aug 15, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Mike Eisler wrote: > Reading through responses, both those published to the list and > privately > sent to me, I see a strong consensus for NFSv4.2, strong indication > that there are people willing to contribute to the document process as > orginators, editors, and reviewers, and strong indication that this > work > will be prototyped/implemented. > > I propose: > - that NFSv4.2, RPCSEC_GSSv3, MAC be authorized as a work items > immediately. > -- I further propose that the primary editors of these three work > items be, > respectively, Mike Eisler, Nico Williams, and Dave Quigley. > - For the NFSv4.2 document, we start by combining the COPY > operations I-D, > and the part of the MAC I-D that describes the RECOMMENDED MAC > attribute. > -- We should have a discussion and reach consensus on how to combine > sub-file caching > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-eisler-nfsv4-pnfs-dedupe > or > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-myklebust-nfsv4-byte-range-delegations) > , > peer-to-peer NFS ( > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-myklebust-nfsv4-pnfs-backend ), > and unstable file create (see Trond's emails on this thread), > and then fold this consensus into NFSv4.2. > > Going through the items one by one: > > On Wed, August 12, 2009 8:41 pm, Mike Eisler wrote: > >> Peer-to-Peer NFS > > Strong indication of support for this work in terms of reviewing, > contributing and implementing (it has already been prototyped). > Trond wants to re-do the prototype once the NFSv4.2 form of this > work is clarified. > >> Copy > > James indicated he'd like to continue to contribute here, including > with implementation. Tom Haynes also indicated a possibility to > contribute > here. > >> Hole Punching > > I received a private response that proposals for hole punching and > thin provisioning will be coming soon. > >> MAC Security Attribute > > Dave Quigley is committed to contributing to > >> Traffic Classification > > Thus far, no renewed interested has been expressed on this. > >> End-to-End Data Integrity > > Thus far, no renewed interested has been expressed on this. > > >> Umask Attribute > > Thus far, no renewed interested has been expressed on this. > >> Shutdown Callback > > Thus far, no renewed interested has been expressed on this. > >> Readahead Hint > > Thus far, no renewed interested has been expressed on this. > >> pNFS Connectivity/Access Indication > > A fresh item from Stockholm IETF meeting; absence of > re-stating support for this is not absence of proof of interest. > I for one am committed to seeing this solved in NFSv4.2. > >> Better Negotiation of Session Reply Cache Sizes > > A fresh item from after Stockholm IETF meeting; absence of > re-stating support for this is not absence of proof of interest. > But I remain luke warm on this ... not entirely convinced there is > a problem to solve. > >> Metadata Striping > > Andy Adamson has expressed interest in prototyping this. > >> De-Dupe Awareness and Sub-File Caching > > In the context of peer-to-peer NFS, I see continued interested > in sub-file caching. Sub-file caching as proposed my me, gives > one de-dupe awareness for free (or the converse depending on > how one wants to look at it). As I've proposed at the beginning of > this message, the WG needs to discuss how it wants to approach all > these topics before adding them to an NFSv4.2 I-D. > > New items: > > - unstable file creates. This has a lot of interested within the WG > - capabilities: An item proposed by Nico Williams > - attributes: Dan Muntz expressed an interest in revisiting how > attributes > are handled. > > > -- > Mike Eisler, Senior Technical Director, NetApp, 719 599 9026, > http://blogs.netapp.com/eislers_nfs_blog/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… William A. (Andy) Adamson
- [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4.2 Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Tom Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Robert Gordon
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… James Lentini
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… David P. Quigley
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Tom Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Noveck, Dave
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Noveck, Dave
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Muntz, Daniel
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Robert Gordon
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Nick Williams
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… David P. Quigley
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Spencer Shepler
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… R N ALEX
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Sorin Faibish
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Mahesh Siddheshwar
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Lisa Week
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Noveck, Dave
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Tom Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Sam Falkner
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Tigran Mkrtchyan
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Muntz, Daniel
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] List of possible work items for NFSv4… Benny Halevy