Re: [Nfvrg] "DevOps for Software-Defined Telecom Infrastructures" draft

Catalin Meirosu <catalin.meirosu@ericsson.com> Wed, 14 October 2015 14:17 UTC

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From: Catalin Meirosu <catalin.meirosu@ericsson.com>
To: "Ramki_Krishnan@Dell.com" <Ramki_Krishnan@Dell.com>, "DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA (diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com)" <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>
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Dear Ramki, Diego, and NFVRG contributors,

We submitted an updated version of the draft (please see the IETF confirmation message appended below), addressing comments that we received through the mailing list.

We believe that the draft is nowready for adoption as a RG document, and kindly ask the chairs to launch the call in this respect.

Best regards,
-- Catalin


CATALIN MEIROSU PhD
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Name:                                            draft-unify-nfvrg-devops
Revision:           03
Title:                                                DevOps for Software-Defined Telecom Infrastructures
Document date:                         2015-10-14
Group:                                            Individual Submission
Pages:                                             23
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-unify-nfvrg-devops-03.txt
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Abstract:
   Carrier-grade network management was optimized for environments built
   with monolithic physical nodes and involves significant deployment,
   integration and maintenance efforts from network service providers.
   The introduction of virtualization technologies, from the physical
   layer all the way up to the application layer, however, invalidates
   several well-established assumptions in this domain. This draft opens
   the discussion in NFVRG about challenges related to transforming the
   telecom network infrastructure into an agile, model-driven production
   environment for communication services. We take inspiration from data
   center DevOps regarding how to simplify and automate management
   processes for a telecom service provider software-defined
   infrastructure (SDI). Among the identified challenges, we consider
   scalability of observability processes and automated inference of
   monitoring requirements from logical forwarding graphs, as well as
   initial placement (and re-placement) of monitoring functionality
   following changes in flow paths enforced by the controllers. In
   another category of challenges, verifying correctness of behavior for
   network functions where flow rules are no longer necessary and
   sufficient for determining the forwarding state (for example,
   stateful firewalls or load balancers) is very difficult with current
   technology. Finally, we introduce challenges associated with
   operationalizing DevOps principles at scale in software-defined
   telecom networks in three areas related to key monitoring,
   verification and troubleshooting processes.




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From: Ramki_Krishnan@Dell.com [mailto:Ramki_Krishnan@Dell.com]
Sent: den 10 september 2015 15:35
To: Catalin Meirosu
Cc: draft-unify-nfvrg-devops@ietf.org; nfvrg@irtf.org
Subject: RE: "DevOps for Software-Defined Telecom Infrastructures" draft

Thanks Catalin, your approach sounds good and relalistic. The same holds true for references to open source code implementations, such as those used in the NFVIaaS draft, since they are continuously evolving.

Thanks,
Ramki

From: Catalin Meirosu [mailto:catalin.meirosu@ericsson.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 1:45 AM
To: Krishnan, Ramki
Cc: draft-unify-nfvrg-devops@ietf.org
Subject: RE: "DevOps for Software-Defined Telecom Infrastructures" draft

Hi Ramki,

Thank you for the suggestions. We will try to address them. There are quite a lot of tools in the area, so the survey will select a few tools that we consider representative. In my opinion, the issue with including such a survey in an IRTF draft is that new features are added to these tools all the time, so it will represent a only snapshot at a certain point in time of the most prominent features of these tools.

Best regards,
-- Catalin

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Subject: [Nfvrg] "DevOps for Software-Defined Telecom Infrastructures" draft

·       Dear All,

Below are our thoughts on the "DevOps for Software-Defined Telecom Infrastructures" draft. Link to draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-devops/.


*         Add a survey of existing open source tools in this area.

*         Identify gaps in the tools as per the identified challenges.

Thanks,
Ramki & Diego