Re: [NGO] access control

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 19 March 2008 16:20 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [NGO] access control
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 07:59:25AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 04:38:27AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> >  
> >> I doubt vendors will accept a new standard DML every time
> >> the IETF wants to add 'one more clause'.  I think it will be very
> >> difficult to introduce new versions of the DML.
> > 
> > Lets simply disagree on this. I believe extensibility of a DML is much
> > like extensibility of a protocol a good thing.
> 
> The vendors participating in SMING made it very clear
> that supporting multiple versions of the the SMI would
> be too expensive to be worth it.

I don't know what you mean with multiple versions of the SMI. I stick
to my position that extensibility of a DML is much like extensibility
of a protocol a good thing.

/js

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