Re: Fwd: Re: [Fwd: (ngtrans) Fwd: Draft Agenda for Yokohama]

Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Fri, 28 June 2002 15:42 UTC

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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: Francois Le Faucheur <flefauch@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Fwd: (ngtrans) Fwd: Draft Agenda for Yokohama]
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Btw,

It seems rather convenient that BGP Tunneling includes Cisco IPR, but 
that's not mentioned in the draft.  Hopefully that's mentioned in the 
transition scenarios.



On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:

> just resending (had forgotten the ngtrans listr in cc:).
> Francois
> 
> >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:48:10 +0200
> >To: mrw@windriver.com,
> >From: Francois Le Faucheur <flefauch@cisco.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Fwd: (ngtrans) Fwd: Draft Agenda for Yokohama]
> >Cc: Francois Le Faucheur <flefauch@cisco.com>, 
> >jeremy.de_clercq@alcatel.be, Alain Durand <alain.durand@sun.com>, Tony 
> >Hain <tony@tndh.net>
> >
> >Margaret,
> >
> >In line with your earlier request, I posted an I-D describing operational 
> >environments and transition scenarios where 
> ><draft-ietf-ngtrans-bgp-tunnel.xx> fits well. This draft is 
> ><draft-lefaucheur-bgp-tunnel-transition-00.txt> and will appear on the 
> >server soon.
> >
> >Unfortunately I only managed to work on it and post it just before the 
> >cut-off date, so there has not been any time to discuss it/reflect it in 
> >the work of the Design Teams.
> >
> >I would like to request a short slot in Yokohama to present these 
> >operational environements and transition scenarios. Is this possible?
> >
> >In the meantime, feed-back on the draft over the list is very welcome of 
> >course.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Francois
> >
> >
> >
> >>-------- Original Message --------
> >>Subject: (ngtrans) Fwd: Draft Agenda for Yokohama
> >>Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:39:33 -0400
> >>From: Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com>
> >>Reply-To: Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com>
> >>To: ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com
> >>CC: Alain Durand <alain.durand@sun.com>,Tony Hain <tony@tndh.net>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi All,
> >>
> >>Attached please find a draft agenda for Yokohama.  Please let us
> >>know if there are any comments, or if I have omitted any topics
> >>that should be covered.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Margaret
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Next Generation Transition WG (ngtrans)
> >>Wednesday, July 17 at 0900-1130
> >>=======================================
> >>
> >>CHAIRS:  Alain Durand <alain.durand@suncom>
> >>            Tony Hain <tony@tndh.net>
> >>            Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com>
> >>
> >>AGENDA:
> >>
> >>Introduction and Agenda Bashing -- Chairs (5 min)
> >>
> >>Design Team Problem Statements/Scenarios
> >>          - Overview of Design Team Concept -- Tony Hain (5 min)
> >>          - 3GPP Team -- Jonne Soininen (10 min)
> >>          - Unmanaged Networks Team -- Christian Huitema (10 min)
> >>          - ISP Team -- Cleve Mickles (10 min)
> >>
> >>3GPP Transition Solutions -- Juha Wiljakka (15 min)
> >>
> >>Transition Mechanism Applicability
> >>          - DSTM -- Jim Bound (10 min)
> >>          - ISATAP -- Fred Templin (10 min)
> >>
> >>NAT64/NAT46 Mechanism -- Alain Durand (10 min)
> >>
> >>NGTrans Charter Discussion
> >>          - Review Proposed Charter Wording -- Chairs (15 min)
> >>          - Discuss On-going Work -- Chairs (15 min)
> >>                  (What should progress, and what should wait
> >>                  for design team output)
> >>
> >>Interim Meeting Discussion -- Margaret Wasserman (5 min)
> >
> >
> >
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> >>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 14:07:31 -0400
> >>To: ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com
> >>From: Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com>
> >>Subject: (ngtrans) Fwd: Activities Update
> >>Sender: owner-ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com
> >>Reply-To: Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Just a reminder...
> >>
> >>As I mentioned in my earlier message:
> >>
> >>We have asked the authors of ngtrans mechanisms to describe, either in an 
> >>applicability statement
> >>or in a companion document, specific scenarios where their proposal fits 
> >>better than other existing
> >>work.  This information will be used by the design teams,as they work to 
> >>assemble complete transition
> >>plans for the most likely transition scenarios.
> >>
> >>The ID cut-off date for -00 documents is Monday, June 24th at 9am EDT, 
> >>and the cut-off for
> >>updates is Monday, July 1st.  So, please get these documents in as soon 
> >>as possible, in
> >>order to help the design teams to better understand your work.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Margaret
> >
> 

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