Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definitions-00
Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com> Wed, 25 June 2014 08:34 UTC
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From: Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
To: "Michael Behringer (mbehring)" <mbehring@cisco.com>, "anima@ietf.org" <anima@ietf.org>, "nmrg@irtf.org" <nmrg@irtf.org>
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Subject: Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definitions-00
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Hi, Michael, Your suggestions looks good. One comments: the current definition of autonomic network looks vague. May I propose to modify it: a network which employs autonomic functions network-wide. Best regards, Sheng >-----Original Message----- >From: Anima [mailto:anima-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael >Behringer (mbehring) >Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:55 PM >To: anima@ietf.org; nmrg@irtf.org >Subject: [Anima] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definitions-00 > >NMRG, Anima, > >Having gone through feedback, and re-reading the document myself, here is a >list of changes I'm proposing to make to >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definitions-00: > >High level, I think the "meat" of the document, sections 3, 4 and 6 are pretty >complete and correct. If anyone thinks we're missing an important design >goal or a non-design goal, please speak up! > >Some details: > >1. Section 3.1. always refers to "nodes". We should rephrase this to >"functions". The primary goal here is not to produce a fully autonomic node >or network, but autonomic functions. For the foreseeable future fully >autonomic nodes/networks will remain the exception. >Therefore: s/node/function/ in this section. >Actually, also later on in the doc the doc references sometimes "nodes" or >"the network". I suggest to change that to "function". > >2. Common infrastructure. >In my mail >http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/nmrg/current/msg01512.html I >suggested to add to the design goals: > ><section title="Common Autonomic Networking Infrastructure"> > <t><xref target="I-D.irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis"/> points out that there >are already a number of fully or partially autonomic functions available today. >However, they are largely independent, and each has its own methods and >protocols to communicate, discover, define and distribute policy, etc. </t> > <t>The goal of the work on autonomic networking in the IETF is >therefore not just to create autonomic functions, but to define a common >infrastructure that autonomic functions can use. This autonomic networking >infrastructure may contain common control and management functions such >as messaging, service discovery, negotiation, intent distribution, etc. A >common approach to define and manage intent is also required. </t> > <t>Refer to the reference model below: All the components around the >"autonomic service agents" should be common components, such that the >autonomic service agents do not have to replicate common tasks individually. ></t> > </section> > >Unless I missed it, I haven't seen any negative comments on that section, so >I'll add it to the new version. > >3. Use case section. >In the same email (link above) I proposed some text for the use case section. >But frankly, I think this is overtaken by the discussion we had on the list, and >out of date. >We also want to drive this document to publication soon, so procedural issues >such as how to report use cases should really not be there any more. >I suggest we just remove this section completely, since IMO it is not required >for the document to be useful and complete. Thoughts? > >Am I missing any feedback, or points we discussed? If so, please let me know! > >I'm finalising version -01 of the document now. I'll circulate first amongst the >authors, then post the result. > >Michael > >_______________________________________________ >Anima mailing list >Anima@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima
- [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network… Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [nmrg] [Anima] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-auton… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-net… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-net… Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-net… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-net… Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [nmrg] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-net… Sheng Jiang
- Re: [nmrg] [Anima] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-auton… Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [nmrg] [Anima] Updating draft-irtf-nmrg-auton… Sheng Jiang