Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02
Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 04 December 2019 21:32 UTC
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 13:32:18 -0800
From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr>, "Schönwälder, Jürgen" <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02
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+1 Juergen Cheers, Jeff On Dec 4, 2019, 1:25 PM -0800, Schönwälder, Jürgen <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, wrote: > I am still not sure what the value of this document is. What is the > insight that these big tables deliver? How do they help doing > ultimately better work in the IETF? > > I am sure I will get some answer quickly from the authors but what I > am saying is that I prefer to see the value of this document very > clearly explained in the document before adopting it. Note that I also > expect that this document would align with the other document defining > intent concepts and terminology. Perhaps this is more intended like a > survey paper but then it has gone a bit in the wrong direction since a > decent survey would explain how intent is defined and used in concrete > projects (hint: lots of concrete descriptions and references) and then > you would classify things. But right now, we have big tables with > empty cells or cells with text that seems to come from rather unknown > sources. > > For the above reasons, I do not support adoption at this point in > time. > > /js > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Jérôme François wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > We recently received an RG adoption request for > > draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02 > > (https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt) > > > > Please let us know if you support the work becoming a RG document or if you > > think it should not be adopted. In all cases, provide detailed comments to > > support your opinion and send them on the mailing list. > > > > This call for adoption is open for two weeks and ends up on 19 December 2019. > > > > The procedure for RG document adoption and important criteria are detailed > > here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmrg/CVEyLUvfxJk1Ud5WdM9Y5LGvQmU > > > > Best regards > > NMRG chairs > > Laurent & Jérôme > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nmrg mailing list > > nmrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg
- [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent-cla… Jérôme François
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Schönwälder
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [nmrg] [EXT] Re: Adoption call for draft-li-n… Natale, Bob
- Re: [nmrg] [EXT] Re: Adoption call for draft-li-n… Branislav Meandzija
- Re: [nmrg] [EXT] Re: Adoption call for draft-li-n… El Khatib, Yehia (elkhatib)
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Liushucheng (Will Liu)
- Re: [nmrg] [EXT] Re: Adoption call for draft-li-n… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Giuseppe Fioccola
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Jéferson Campos Nobre
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] [EXT] Re: Adoption call for draft-li-n… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… SUN Xueyuan
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… sunqiong.bri@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… lichen6@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Schönwälder
- [nmrg] 回复: Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… lichen6@chinatelecom.cn
- [nmrg] Fw: Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Schönwälder
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] Fw: Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-in… Schönwälder
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Jérôme François
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Olga Havel
- Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent… Ying Cheng
- [nmrg] Adoption call result for draft-li-nmrg-int… Jérôme François