Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02

Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 04 December 2019 21:32 UTC

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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 13:32:18 -0800
From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr>, "Schönwälder, Jürgen" <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [nmrg] Adoption call for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02
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+1 Juergen

Cheers,
Jeff
On Dec 4, 2019, 1:25 PM -0800, Schönwälder, Jürgen <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, wrote:
> I am still not sure what the value of this document is. What is the
> insight that these big tables deliver? How do they help doing
> ultimately better work in the IETF?
>
> I am sure I will get some answer quickly from the authors but what I
> am saying is that I prefer to see the value of this document very
> clearly explained in the document before adopting it. Note that I also
> expect that this document would align with the other document defining
> intent concepts and terminology. Perhaps this is more intended like a
> survey paper but then it has gone a bit in the wrong direction since a
> decent survey would explain how intent is defined and used in concrete
> projects (hint: lots of concrete descriptions and references) and then
> you would classify things. But right now, we have big tables with
> empty cells or cells with text that seems to come from rather unknown
> sources.
>
> For the above reasons, I do not support adoption at this point in
> time.
>
> /js
>
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Jérôme François wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We recently received an RG adoption request for
> > draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02
> > (https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-02.txt)
> >
> > Please let us know if you support the work becoming a RG document or if you
> > think it should not be adopted. In all cases, provide detailed comments to
> > support your opinion and send them on the mailing list.
> >
> > This call for adoption is open for two weeks and ends up on 19 December 2019.
> >
> > The procedure for RG document adoption and important criteria are detailed
> > here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmrg/CVEyLUvfxJk1Ud5WdM9Y5LGvQmU
> >
> > Best regards
> > NMRG chairs
> > Laurent & Jérôme
> >
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