Re: [nmrg] IBN Use Cases Further Steps

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From: "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>
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Subject: Re: [nmrg] IBN Use Cases Further Steps
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Hi Jéferson, all,

Thanks for progressing on the IBN use cases aspects.

In preparation of the NMRG session at IETF 109, could you please discuss / prepare an update highlighting:

i)       List of tentative/proposed use cases (and related status e.g. pointers to corresponding I-D)

ii)     What we expect the use case work to deliver? E.g. what value information, learnings, know-how we would like to develop and document in/with the use cases, commonalities/patterns/...

iii)    What would be the preferred approach between grouping the IBN use cases in a single document, or having one document per use case

Thank you.

Best regards,
Laurent

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Dear NMRG.
I just created a github repository for the ibn use cases template: https://github.com/jcnobre/draft-nobre-nmrg-ibn-use-cases
I added a dummy I-D just as an initial point.
If you are willing to contribute, please send your github user and I will add on the repository.
Thanks.
Cheers.

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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 7:09 PM <amina.boubendir@orange.com<mailto:amina.boubendir@orange.com>> wrote:
Hi Jéferson, all,

I am in! with interest in elaborating use cases that would help develop approaches of intent lifecycle management.
That week is busy for me as well but I will do according to the chosen date and timing for the session.

Best regards,
Amina

De : nmrg [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org>] De la part de LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
Envoyé : jeudi 8 octobre 2020 23:06
À : Jeff Tantsura; Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
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Hi all

I would like also to confirm my interest on this.

Best regards

Luis

De: nmrg <nmrg-bounces@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org>> En nombre de Jeff Tantsura
Enviado el: jueves, 8 de octubre de 2020 21:51
Para: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com<mailto:laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>>
CC: nmrg <nmrg@irtf.org<mailto:nmrg@irtf.org>>
Asunto: Re: [nmrg] IBN Use Cases Further Steps

+1, as RG participant and IBNS vendor
Cheers,
Jeff

On Oct 5, 2020, at 00:38, Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com<mailto:laurent.ciavaglia@nokia.com>> wrote:

Hi Jéferson, All,

As a RG participant, I think it's good idea to try work sessions on IBN use cases; and I'd be willing to contribute.

On my side the week of the IETF 109 Hackathon will be quite busy with IEEE CloudNet, ETSI ZSM meeting and Hackathon but should be possible to have a session.
Maybe it would be good to try a work session by end of October or so...

Best regards,
Laurent

From: Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br<mailto:jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>>
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 01:42
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Subject: IBN Use Cases Further Steps

Dear all.
Regarding the IBN Use Cases, I would like to collect opinions of others on the way to proceed, gauge interest and participants.
The initial idea is to have work sessions on use cases, if there are participants interested in progressing the work.
The first session could be an I-D hands-on. In this case, I can start an I-D, just as an initial guess and we may work on it at the meeting.
Besides that, we could also work towards some experimental/implementation outcome on Use Cases.
Since we have the hackathon week coming, these two ideas can be tied in some way. Otherwise, we can set up something in an alternate timing.
Thanks.
Cheers.

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Instituto de Informática
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Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
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