Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-00.txt

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 30 July 2021 16:19 UTC

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            Title           : The update registries draft
            Author          : Rich Salz
    	Filename        : draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-00.txt
    	Pages           : 11
    	Date            : 2021-07-30
    The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries/

In this draft I removed the distinctions that are currently in the NTS registries.  For example, 
Range 	Registration Procedures
	0-1023 	IETF Review
	1024-16383 	Specification Required
	16384-32767 	Private or Experimental Use

I think the 1023 stuff is reminiscent of "reserved ports" from BSD.  But I do not care very much, and if the WG agrees then I will remove that change. My reasons were that after a couple of years as one of the TLS experts, everything as "spec required" seems okay, we have a large number space, IETF review is a very high burden, and there's nothing special about those low numbers except vanity. :)

I am curious what the WG thinks, and nudge Daniel to post.