IETF Logo Mail Archive

[ntpwg] Antw: Re: The NTP WG has placed draft-haberman-ntpwg-mode-6-cmds in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

"Ulrich Windl" <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> Wed, 29 March 2017 13:16 UTC

Return-Path: <ntpwg-bounces+ntp-archives-ahfae6za=lists.ietf.org@lists.ntp.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-ntp-archives-ahFae6za@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-ntp-archives-ahFae6za@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD87129504 for <ietfarch-ntp-archives-ahFae6za@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:16:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nzuQhKT3RP89 for <ietfarch-ntp-archives-ahFae6za@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:16:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from lists.ntp.org (psp3.ntp.org [185.140.48.241]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0534E1294EC for <ntp-archives-ahFae6za@lists.ietf.org>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:16:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from psp3.ntp.org (localhost.ntp.org [127.0.0.1]) by lists.ntp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CBB86DC17 for <ntp-archives-ahFae6za@lists.ietf.org>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:16:55 +0000 (UTC)
X-Original-To: ntpwg@lists.ntp.org
Delivered-To: ntpwg@lists.ntp.org
Received: from mail1.ntp.org (fortinet.ntp.org [10.224.90.254]) by lists.ntp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607AF86DAB3 for <ntpwg@lists.ntp.org>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:16:52 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from rrzmta2.uni-regensburg.de ([194.94.155.52]) by mail1.ntp.org with esmtps (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>) id 1ctDSt-0007OF-RF for ntpwg@lists.ntp.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:16:52 +0000
Received: from rrzmta2.uni-regensburg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 936237300D for <ntpwg@lists.ntp.org>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:16:42 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de (gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de [132.199.5.51]) by rrzmta2.uni-regensburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEF572FFD for <ntpwg@lists.ntp.org>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:16:42 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from uni-regensburg-smtp1-MTA by gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:16:42 +0200
Message-Id: <58DBB3B8020000A100025649@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de>
X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 14.2.2
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:16:40 +0200
From: Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
To: brian@innovationslab.net, ntpwg@lists.ntp.org
References: <58DB51D3020000A10002562B@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> <58DB51D3020000A10002562B@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> <56ee9a97-6f65-bf71-0749-0596d3565a79@innovationslab.net>
In-Reply-To: <56ee9a97-6f65-bf71-0749-0596d3565a79@innovationslab.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Disposition: inline
X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 194.94.155.52
X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ntpwg@lists.ntp.org
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de
X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2
X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org)
Subject: [ntpwg] Antw: Re: The NTP WG has placed draft-haberman-ntpwg-mode-6-cmds in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
X-BeenThere: ntpwg@lists.ntp.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF Working Group for Network Time Protocol <ntpwg.lists.ntp.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ntp.org/options/ntpwg>, <mailto:ntpwg-request@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/ntpwg/>
List-Post: <mailto:ntpwg@lists.ntp.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ntpwg-request@lists.ntp.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/ntpwg>, <mailto:ntpwg-request@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Errors-To: ntpwg-bounces+ntp-archives-ahfae6za=lists.ietf.org@lists.ntp.org
Sender: ntpwg <ntpwg-bounces+ntp-archives-ahfae6za=lists.ietf.org@lists.ntp.org>

>>> Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> schrieb am 29.03.2017 um 14:16 in
Nachricht <56ee9a97-6f65-bf71-0749-0596d3565a79@innovationslab.net>:
> Hi Ulrich,
> 
> On 3/29/17 2:18 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>> Yesterday's message had the wrong address in it:
>> 
>>> Yesterday I wrote:
>>>>> The NTP WG has placed draft-haberman-ntpwg-mode-6-cmds in state
>>>>> Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Karen O'Donoghue)
>>>>>
>>>>> The document is available at
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haberman-ntpwg-mode-6-cmds/ 
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Actually I miss the purpose of the draft: Currently it seems to be
>>>> just a copy from RFC 1305. Can anybody explain?
> 
> When RFC 5905 was published, it did not contain the mode 6 commands.
> Several people have complained about that, especially having to refer
> back to a now obsolete RFC 1305.
> 
> The purpose of this draft is to provide an up-to-date reference for the
> mode 6 commands.

I guessed so, but the document as it is now provides little new information, especially not on the fact that ntpdc's commands are mostly moved to mode 6. It would be nice to see them.

From one of my programs I've developed I can read tha tthe definition of the event codes changed (in an incompatible) between NTPv3 and v4. Similar for the peer event codes. Variable names also changed (some renamed, some dropped, some new). E.g.: "poll" vs. "tc". Another candidate is "state": First introduced in NTPv4, then dropped again.

It's of little use when there is a command to read a variable (by name), when you don't know how the variable is named...

> 
> One of the items I want to complete if the draft is adopted is to
> modernize the text and align it with RFC 5905.

Not to forget draft-odonoghue-ntpv4-control-02.txt...

Regards,
Ulrich

> 
> Regards,
> Brian




_______________________________________________
ntpwg mailing list
ntpwg@lists.ntp.org
http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/ntpwg

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email