Re: [nvo3] Carrying entropy, was: draft-ietf-nvo3-encap-00 should add considerations of traversing NAPT

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Fri, 14 July 2017 03:41 UTC

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On 7/13/2017 6:34 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote:
> Given that we're talking about encapsulations, I see that Geneve has a
> "Virtual Network Identifier" field that can be treated as part of the
> entropy.  If it isn't needed to identifiy a virtual network, it can
> loaded with entropy from the encapsulated packet.  In any case, packets
> with different NVI values can be freely reordered.
>
> And there is an 8-bit reserved field which could be defined to be
> entropy.
>
> These fields are at a fixed location relative to the containing headers,
> so they're easy to find.
Yes, but I sincerely doubt router vendors will peek into GENEVE headers.
IMO, they'll either use IPv6 flow IDs or look for transport flow
context. Even a NVI isn't really flow information, so might not have any
bearing on whether a set of packets (with the same NVI) should maintain
their relative order.

Joe