Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane
John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> Mon, 24 September 2012 14:50 UTC
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From: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>
To: "NAPIERALA, MARIA H" <mn1921@att.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:45:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane
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Maria, Do you have any basis for your assertion that "In data centers where most traffic is inter-VLAN..."? In any event, the VM Mobility draft (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raggarwa-data-center-mobility-03) describes how routing support of VM mobility can be achieved using E-VPN in conjunction with the judicious use of host routes and/or NHRP. I.e., no new protocols other than E-VPN are required. This material will be incorporated into a subsequent version of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bitar-datacenter-vpn-applicability-01 Yours irrespectively, John > -----Original Message----- > From: nvo3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nvo3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > NAPIERALA, MARIA H > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:09 AM > To: nvo3@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane > > I think we should try to clarify what problems or what type of data > centers specific solutions are addressing. > Specifically, EVPN can only address traffic bridged in the same VLAN. > In data centers where most traffic is inter-VLAN, i.e., packets are > routed, the EVPN doesn't achieve much as an overall solution. > I tried to make this point on the webex during the nvo3 interim session > when draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane was discussed but I am not > sure if my message went through. > > Maria > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nvo3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nvo3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of Thomas Nadeau > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 11:55 AM > > To: nvo3@ietf.org > > Subject: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane > > > > > > A number of us just published this draft and wanted to bring it > to > > the NVO3 WG's attention. We will be presenting/discussing this draft > > at the interim meeting this week as well, but please discuss here on > > the list as well. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom, John, et al > > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane-00.txt > > has been successfully submitted by Thomas D. Nadeau and posted to the > > IETF repository. > > > > Filename: draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane > > Revision: 00 > > Title: A Control Plane for Network Virtualized Overlays > > Creation date: 2012-09-16 > > WG ID: Individual Submission > > Number of pages: 12 > > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-drake- > nvo3- > > evpn-control-plane-00.txt > > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-drake-nvo3- > evpn- > > control-plane > > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-drake-nvo3-evpn- > > control-plane-00 > > > > > > Abstract: > > The purpose of this document is to describe how Ethernet > Virtual > > Private Network (E-VPN) can be used as the control plane for > > Network Virtual Overlays. Currently this protocol is defined > to > > act as the control plane for Virtual Extensible Local Area > > Network (VXLAN), Network Virtualization using Generic Routing > > Encapsulation (NVGRE), MPLS or VLANs while maintaining their > > existing data plane encapsulations. The intent is that this > > protocol will be capable of extensions in the future to handle > > additinal data plane encapsulations and functions as needed. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nvo3 mailing list > > nvo3@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 > _______________________________________________ > nvo3 mailing list > nvo3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Vishwas Manral
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Truman Boyes
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Patrick Frejborg
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Patrick Frejborg
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Jon Hudson
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Patrick Frejborg
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lou Berger
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Christian Martin
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Shane Amante
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Vishwas Manral
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Vishwas Manral
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Jon Hudson
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Jon Hudson
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Christian Martin
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- [nvo3] 答复: draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- [nvo3] Is the cost of supporting active-active mu… Xuxiaohu
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] Is the cost of supporting active-activ… Aldrin Isaac
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-… Sunny Rajagopalan
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Patrick Frejborg
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Patrick Frejborg
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] Is the cost of supporting active-activ… Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] Is the cost of supporting active-activ… Jon Hudson
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Sunny Rajagopalan
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Sunny Rajagopalan
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Ken Gray
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: [nvo3] BGP + XMPP (was Re: draft-drake-nvo3-e… Aldrin Isaac
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Eric Gray
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Black, David
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Eric Gray
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
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- Re: [nvo3] draft-drake-nvo3-evpn-control-plane NAPIERALA, MARIA H
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