Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02
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As many people have pointed out already, the current problem statement draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02)has significant issues in describing VPN-related problems. It should at least consider merging with previously submitted VPN4DC problem statement drafts. Ning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benson, > Dear NVO3 Participants - > > This message begins a two week Call for Adoption of > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 > by the NVO3 working group, ending on 30-June-2012. > > Please respond to the NVO3 mailing list with any statements of approval > or disapproval, along with any additional comments that might explain > your position. Also, if any NVO3 participant is aware of IPR associated > with this draft, please inform the mailing list and/or the NVO3 chairs. Before considering adoption of draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement, we should consider how this draft is related to draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-statement (see below) ? Do these two drafts cover the same topic ? Are they complementary with each other ? Should both of these drafts be merged into a single draft, before being adopted by the NVO3 working group ? Yakov. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:50:53 CDT To: <nvo3 at ietf.org> cc: Pedro Marques <pedro.r.marques at gmail.com>, mnapierala at att.com, "Dennis Cai \(dcai\)" <dcai at cisco.com> From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang at cisco.com> Subject: [nvo3] FW: New Version Notification fordraft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-sta ***tement-01.txt Dear colleagues, We have uploaded a new updated version of draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-statement -01.txt (on 6/12), by Maria Napierala, Dennis Cai, and myself. Appreciate your review and comments. Thanks, Luyuan -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts at ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts at ietf.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:48 PM To: Luyuan Fang (lufang) Cc: mnapierala at att.com; Dennis Cai (dcai) Subject: New Version Notification fordraft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-statement-01.t xt A new version of I-D, draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-statement-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Luyuan Fang and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-statement Revision: 01 Title: IP-VPN Data Center Problem Statement and Requirements Creation date: 2012-06-12 WG ID: Individual Submission Number of pages: 18 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fang-vpn4dc-proble m-statement-01.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-st atement Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/submission.filename }}-01 Diff: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem -statement-01 Abstract: Network Service Providers commonly use BGP/MPLS VPNs [RFC 4364] as the control plane for virtual networks. This technology has proven to scale to a large number of VPNs and attachment points, and it is well suited for Data Center connectivity, especially when supporting all IP applications. The Data Center environment presents new challenges and imposes additional requirements to IP VPN technologies, including multi- tenancy support, high scalability, VM mobility, security, and orchestration. This document describes the problems and defines the new requirements. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ nvo3 mailing list nvo3 at ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 ________________________________ * Follow-Ups: * Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 * From: Linda Dunbar * Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 * From: John E Drake * Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 * From: Stewart Bryant * References: * [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 * From: Benson Schliesser * Prev by Date: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-lasserre-nvo3-framework-02 * Next by Date: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 * Previous by thread: [nvo3] Live Migraiton [was: Re: call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02] * Next by thread: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement-02 * Index(es): * Date * Thread Note Well: Messages sent to this mailing list are the opinions of the senders and do not imply endorsement by the IETF.
- [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overl… Benson Schliesser
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Melinda Shore
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Melinda Shore
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Melinda Shore
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Randy Bush
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Robert Raszuk
- [nvo3] Softswitches david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Melinda Shore
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] Softswitches Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… John E Drake
- [nvo3] Oracle Terminology [was: Re: call for adop… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Thomas Narten
- [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for adopti… Thomas Narten
- [nvo3] RFC4364 text in problem statement [was Re:… Thomas Narten
- [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for adopti… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Robert Raszuk
- [nvo3] Live Migraiton [was: Re: call for adoption… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] RFC4364 text in problem statement [was… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [nvo3] RFC4364 text in problem statement [was… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Pedro Roque Marques
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] Oracle Terminology [was: Re: call for … Xuxiaohu
- [nvo3] 答复: inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Melinda Shore
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… Thomas Narten
- [nvo3] VRFs [was Re: call for adoption: draft-nar… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRFs [was Re: call for adoption: draft… thomas.morin
- Re: [nvo3] VRFs [was Re: call for adoption: draft… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- [nvo3] VPN4DC draft scope david.black
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VPN4DC draft scope Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic thomas.morin
- Re: [nvo3] Data Center Types [was Re: call for ad… NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] VRFs [was Re: call for adoption: draft… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] VRFs [was Re: call for adoption: draft… Truman Boyes
- Re: [nvo3] VRFs [was Re: call for adoption: draft… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… thomas.morin
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… thomas.morin
- [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3-ove… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Lucy yong
- [nvo3] overlay benefits section: [was: Re: call f… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] overlay benefits section: [was: Re: ca… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… david.black
- [nvo3] NVO3 scope - VPN4DC david.black
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] NVO3 scope - VPN4DC Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] NVO3 scope - VPN4DC david.black
- Re: [nvo3] overlay benefits section: [was: Re: ca… thomas.morin
- Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-o… Ning So
- Re: [nvo3] overlay benefits section: [was: Re: ca… Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Benson Schliesser
- Re: [nvo3] overlay benefits section: [was: Re: ca… David Allan I
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… thomas.morin
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [nvo3] overlay benefits section: [was: Re: ca… thomas.morin
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri)
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… david.black
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Truman Boyes
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Aldrin Isaac
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [nvo3] inter-CUG traffic [was Re: call for ad… Joel jaeggli
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Thomas Narten
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… David Freedman
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… John E Drake
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [nvo3] VRF text (take 3) in draft-narten-nvo3… Lucy yong
- [nvo3] E-VPN text in problem statement draft david.black