Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Thu, 17 March 2011 23:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal
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+1. Discussion on the apps-discuss list would be welcome: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss On 3/17/11 4:57 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > This proposal goes far beyond just solving any discovery needs for > OAuth. It also directly competes with existing (deployed) proposals. > This group is not the right forum to discuss and design a generally > applicable discovery solution for the web. Once discovery is added to > our charter (any discovery is currently out of scope), we can figure > out if there are existing solutions to utilize, if we want to create > a specialized solution for OAuth, or if a general purpose solution is > needed (and does not already exist in a published standard). > > If a general purpose solution is the direction to go, this is not the > venue to develop it. > > So again, presenting this at the meeting is fine, but beyond that, > this working group is not chartered nor equipped to develop this > technology for general purpose. In addition, the right way to present > SWD to this WG is via an example of how OAuth might be using it, and > not any direct discussion of the merits of the actual proposal - that > belongs on the Apps-discuss list until another forum is identified or > created. > > EHL > >> -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Nadalin >> [mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:41 >> PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org >> Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal >> >> I think it does for example how one might discover the >> authorization service and this would be a forum to see if others >> also do or not. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Eran Hammer-Lahav >> [mailto:eran@hueniverse.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:56 >> AM To: Anthony Nadalin; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org Subject: >> RE: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal >> >> Re: draft-jones-simple-web-discovery >> >> While I don't have an objections to this document being presented >> and discussed at the meeting, I want to point that this has >> absolutely nothing to do with this working group and if the IETF >> community has an interest in pursuing it, it does not belong in >> this working group. >> >> EHL >> >>> -----Original Message----- From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Nadalin >>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:54 AM To: Hannes Tschofenig; >>> oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal >>> >>> Is it possible to add these to the mix? >>> >>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-00.txt >>> >>> and also the >>> http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-jwt-bearer- >>> 00.txt >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig >>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:29 AM To: oauth@ietf.org >>> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal >>> >>> Open Authentication Protocol WG ==============================- >>> >>> FRIDAY, April 1, 2011 Vienna/Madrid Room >>> >>> Chairs: Hannes Tschofenig/Blaine Cook >>> >>> Agenda ------ >>> >>> 1) Agenda Bashing (Chairs) >>> >>> 2) Discussion of Working Group Last Call Comments (Chairs/Mike >>> Jones) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-v2/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer/ >>> >>> 3) OAuth Security (Thorsten) >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-security/ >>> >>> >>> 4) OAuth JSON Encoding (Mike Jones) >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-json-web-token-01 >>> >>> 5) OAuth Use Cases (Zachary Zeltsan) >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zeltsan-oauth-use-cases/ >>> >>> 6) Re-Chartering Discussion (Chairs) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ OAuth mailing >>> list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>> >>> >>>
- [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal torsten
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Anthony Nadalin
- [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Barry Leiba
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Barry Leiba
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Eran Hammer
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Michael Thomas
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Barry Leiba
- [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Justin Richer
- [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Phil Hunt (IDM)
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal Brian Campbell