Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

You need to chill a little instead of just jumping on people w/o understanding. First I did not say that I wanted to discuss a general discovery mechanism, as my example was limited to OAuth usage not the generic case.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eran Hammer-Lahav [mailto:eran@hueniverse.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:58 PM
To: Anthony Nadalin; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

This proposal goes far beyond just solving any discovery needs for OAuth. It also directly competes with existing (deployed) proposals. This group is not the right forum to discuss and design a generally applicable discovery solution for the web. Once discovery is added to our charter (any discovery is currently out of scope), we can figure out if there are existing solutions to utilize, if we want to create a specialized solution for OAuth, or if a general purpose solution is needed (and does not already exist in a published standard).

If a general purpose solution is the direction to go, this is not the venue to develop it.

So again, presenting this at the meeting is fine, but beyond that, this working group is not chartered nor equipped to develop this technology for general purpose. In addition, the right way to present SWD to this WG is via an example of how OAuth might be using it, and not any direct discussion of the merits of the actual proposal - that belongs on the Apps-discuss list until another forum is identified or created.

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:41 PM
> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal
> 
> I think it does for example how one might discover the authorization 
> service and this would be a forum to see if others also do or not.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eran Hammer-Lahav [mailto:eran@hueniverse.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: Anthony Nadalin; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal
> 
> Re: draft-jones-simple-web-discovery
> 
> While I don't have an objections to this document being presented and 
> discussed at the meeting, I want to point that this has absolutely 
> nothing to do with this working group and if the IETF community has an 
> interest in pursuing it, it does not belong in this working group.
> 
> EHL
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Anthony Nadalin
> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:54 AM
> > To: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal
> >
> > Is it possible to add these to the mix?
> >
> > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-00.txt
> >
> > and also the
> > http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-jwt-bearer-
> > 00.txt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oauth-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:29 AM
> > To: oauth@ietf.org
> > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal
> >
> > Open Authentication Protocol WG
> > ==============================-
> >
> > FRIDAY, April 1, 2011
> > Vienna/Madrid Room
> >
> > Chairs: Hannes Tschofenig/Blaine Cook
> >
> > Agenda
> > ------
> >
> > 1) Agenda Bashing (Chairs)
> >
> > 2) Discussion of Working Group Last Call Comments (Chairs/Mike 
> > Jones) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-v2/
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer/
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer/
> >
> > 3) OAuth Security (Thorsten)
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-security/
> >
> > 4) OAuth JSON Encoding (Mike Jones)
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-json-web-token-01
> >
> > 5) OAuth Use Cases (Zachary Zeltsan) 
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zeltsan-oauth-use-cases/
> >
> > 6) Re-Chartering Discussion (Chairs)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OAuth mailing list
> > OAuth@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > OAuth@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
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