Re: [OAUTH-WG] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-spop-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> Thu, 18 June 2015 18:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-spop-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Just a FYI, the issue addressed in this draft hit the media this week as a result of this paper https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxXk1d3yyuZOFlsdkNMSGswSGs/view

The attack we have been discussing is in Section 3.4.

John B.
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> Sounds good to me, Barry!
> 
> On 06/11/2015 09:10 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>> Ah, got it.  Then it would be good for (4) to say that, maybe just by
>>>> adding to the end, "This mechanism does not protect again the more
>>>> sophisticated attack."  Sound OK?
>> That should be "against", of course, not "again".  I hate tupos.
>