Re: [OAUTH-WG] MTLS vs. DPOP

Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> Tue, 07 May 2019 17:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] MTLS vs. DPOP
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Hi, 

mTLS is dead simple to use, secure, is used and can be used on a broad basis (in contrast to the token binding stuff). I also like the fact it provides both client authentication and sender-constraining.

We started the work on DPoP for the simple reason that SPAs don’t work well with mTLS and we want to provide a solution with somehow limited capabilities, e.g. regarding replay protection (see DPoP introduction). 

If someone asks me for the default solution, it’s simple: use mTLS. And if you build a SPA and want to do really security sensitive things, implement your OAuth stuff and the RS interactions in the backend of your application. 

DPoP is in a really early stage, let’s see where it will go.

best regards,
Torsten. 

> On 7. May 2019, at 10:25, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> In the OAuth conference call today Vittorio mentioned that some folks are wondering whether DPOP is essentially a superset of MTLS and whether it makes sense to only proceed with one solution rather potentially two.
>  
> I was wondering whether others in the group have a few about this aspect?
>  
> Ciao
> Hannes
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