Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft-hunt-oauth-v2-user-a4c-00.txt
Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com> Tue, 30 July 2013 20:43 UTC
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Right. Anyone who agreed to IPR could have proposed the text in the work group. Re: Messages and Standard Messages were supposed to be the collection of terminology and parameters sets. Standard was meant to be HTTP binding, which would effectively make it OAuth 2.0 + authentication + identity. As such, normative portion of the standard was to be made of the HTTP protocol element, reference to the parameters sets in Messages, and the documentation on how to serialize. It should be very concise. Non-normative portions were supposed to have examples. In some sections, it is like that, but in sections like 2.2.1.1, it is currently repeating much of what the Messages have. This, to me, is suboptimal but many people wanted to be this way so that they do not have to refer to the Messages. Maybe, for the final, we might reconsider it. 2013/7/31 Richer, Justin P. <jricher@mitre.org> > So it's not the protocol that's the problem, it's the documentation. For > that I'm 100% with you all. However, I really don't think that the right > response to that is "we'll just invent something new and incompatible with > slightly different names" -- it's to document the protocol better. > > -- Justin > > On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Paul Madsen <paul.madsen@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I always think I pretty much understand OIDC until I see the specs list > > On 7/30/13 12:39 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > > Yes, that. > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Richer, Justin P. <jricher@mitre.org>wrote: > >> >> Yes, I agree that the giant stack of documents is intimidating and in my >> opinion it's a bit of a mess with Messages and Standard split up (but I >> lost that argument years ago). >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing listOAuth@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > -- Nat Sakimura (=nat) Chairman, OpenID Foundation http://nat.sakimura.org/ @_nat_en
- [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for … Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Richer, Justin P.
- [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for … John Bradley
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for … Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Brian Campbell
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Paul Madsen
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Todd W Lainhart
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for … Prateek Mishra
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for … Nat Sakimura
- [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with AuthN (w… Prateek Mishra
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Bill Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Prateek Mishra
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… William Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Richer, Justin P.
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Mike Jones
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Bill Mills
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Nat Sakimura
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Phil Hunt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] Need for Extending OAuth with Auth… Nat Sakimura