Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for adoption: OAuth 2.0 for Native Apps

John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> Wed, 20 January 2016 19:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for adoption: OAuth 2.0 for Native Apps
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Yes more is needed.   It was theoretical at that point.  Now we have implementation experience.

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> 
> There is https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wdenniss-oauth-native-apps-00#appendix-A <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wdenniss-oauth-native-apps-00#appendix-A> which has some mention of SFSafariViewController and Chrome Custom Tabs. 
> 
> Maybe more is needed?
> 
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:45 AM, John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com <mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>> wrote:
> Yes, in July we recommended using the system browser rather than WebViews.   
> 
> About that time Apple announced Safari view controller and Google Chrome custom tabs.   The code in the OS is now stable and we have done a fair amount of testing.
> 
> The OIDF will shortly be publishing reference libraries for iOS and Android to how how to best use View Controllers, and PKCE in native apps on those platforms.
> 
> We do need to update this doc to reflect what we have learned in the last 6 months.
> 
> One problem we do still have is not having someone with Win 10 mobile experience to help document the best practices for that platform. 
> I don’t understand that platform well enough yet to include anything.
> 
> John B.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Aaron Parecki <aaron@parecki.com <mailto:aaron@parecki.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The section on embedded web views doesn't mention the new iOS 9 SFSafariViewController which allows apps to display a system browser within the application. The new API doesn't give the calling application access to anything inside the browser, so it is acceptable for using with OAuth flows. I think it's important to mention this new capability for apps to leverage since it leads to a better user experience.
>> 
>> I'm sure that can be addressed in the coming months if this document is just the starting point.
>> 
>> I definitely agree that a document about native apps is necessary since the core leaves a lot of guessing room for an implementation.
>> 
>> For reference, https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releasenotes/General/WhatsNewIniOS/Articles/iOS9.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40016198-DontLinkElementID_26 <https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releasenotes/General/WhatsNewIniOS/Articles/iOS9.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40016198-DontLinkElementID_26>
>> 
>> And see the attached screenshot for an example of what it looks like.
>> 
>> <embedded-oauth-view.png>
>> 
>> ----
>> Aaron Parecki
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>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> this is the call for adoption of OAuth 2.0 for Native Apps, see
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wdenniss-oauth-native-apps/ <http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wdenniss-oauth-native-apps/>
>> 
>> Please let us know by Feb 2nd whether you accept / object to the
>> adoption of this document as a starting point for work in the OAuth
>> working group.
>> 
>> Note: If you already stated your opinion at the IETF meeting in Yokohama
>> then you don't need to re-state your opinion, if you want.
>> 
>> The feedback at the Yokohama IETF meeting was the following: 16 persons
>> for doing the work / 0 persons against / 2 persons need more info
>> 
>> Ciao
>> Hannes & Derek
>> 
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