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OIW ODA SIG minutes June 9-11, 1992 Gaithersburg, MD Submitted by JW Wing The meeting was chaired by Jim Wing, Chair, and was attended by 8 persons. After administrative information was given, Mr. Wing made announcements regarding ODA SIG business: 1. Tim Boland has resigned as OIW Chair. Ted Landberg is the heir apparent. 2. Technical Liaison Committee (TLC) report - Jim Quigley, HP, is the new Upper Layers SIG Chair. - TLC charter is to be reviewed, volunteers sought. - Review of principles for development of regional profiles. This work is to continue. * The ODA SIG has the action item to verify the tale about regional profile work. The major items of business are: 1. Status on PAGODA #11, DISP Ballots, Taxonomy, FOD36 editing, and Image application activities. 2. Update on technical standards; SGML/ODA interworking work 3. Object ID Registry After contributions to the meeting were distributed, a draft agenda for the meeting was presented which was essentially identical to the draft agenda proposed in the meeting notice. This agenda was approved with the addition of the Technical Standards update. The minutes of the March 1992 meeting in Gaithersburg were approved. Technical Activities -------------------- In plenary session on Tuesday, Mar 10, 1991, status reports on work efforts of the SIG were given by Jim Wing, Frank Spielman, and Jon Stewart. The areas covered by the reports were: 1. PAGODA #11 - this meeting was held in Geneva, Switzerland on April 22-23, 1992 in conjunction with the SGFS Ballot Resolution meeting. CCITT Q6 hosted the meeting. It was announced that CCITT had put off its vote on the FODxx documents until the comments resolution process is completed. A tentative ISR proforma agreement was formulated. - The concept of minimum IR was reintroduced. - ODA terminology will be used for function units that correspond to ODA attributes. - FOD26 will no longer use factoring, although the concept is not deprecated. Minutes 2 - All applicable attributes of ODA will be listed in the ISR. - A suitable list of function units that are not specifically identified by ODA or the DAPs will be identified, defined and listed in the ISR. - The term "abstract feature" will no longer be used. PAGODA #10 meeting minutes have been received. PAGODA #12 is scheduled for October 19-23, 1992, in Dallas, TX, hosted by IBM. 2. DISP Ballot Resolution meeting, April 24 - May 1, 1992 - this was a week-long meeting to review the comments presented by the National Bodies against DISPs 10610-1, 11181-1, and 11182-1, and to come to an agreeable resolution of all comments. This work was successfully completed, although much editorial work remains. Only one OIW ODA SIG delegate attended. Of the five major proposals sent by OIW ODA SIG, three were accepted. The 'rule-b' on y dimensions and lists, TOC, tables proposals were rejected. OIW ODA SIG can be more effective by preparing detailed change pages for proposals and by attending JTFS to become national body representatives to these meetings. 3. FODxx Editing - this meeting is scheduled for July 20-24, in Tokyo. The purpose is to agree on the final text for the three ISPs and determine the final steps to be taken for publication. 4. Taxonomy Status - the liaison produced at the March meeting has been delivered, but no new information received. Frank Spielman, NIST, presented the status of ongoing work for the Image Applications subgroup and identified the work for the group during the meetings. Frank Spielman also presented proposals and recommendations for object identifier assignment by the ODA SIG. His report was submitted for review to be decided at the plenary session on Thursday. The ODA tutorial consisted of presentations on interoperability by Jon Stewart, DEC, and Joanna Vanderwilt, Boeing Computer Services. On Wednesday the ODA SIG subgroups (Text Processing and Image Applications) met in separate meetings. The minutes of the subgroup meetings are appended to the end of these minutes. The ODA SIG met again Thursday in plenary session to consider the output of the working subgroups and other business. Minutes 3 The ODA SIG reviewed and discussed alternatives on assignment of object identifiers described in ODA 92/0632. After discussion, it was decided that multiple registration authorities within ODA SIG was desirable. That is, open/office document processing and engineering document/image processing would have separate numbers in the object identifier. (6-0-0) A second decision was that each Part (DAP) will include an index in an annex containing only those identifiers assigned to that part. That is, there would not be any cross references between the parts. (6-0-0) The structure of the object identifier is as follows: iso (1) identified-organization (3) oiw (14) odasig (11) doc-proc-appl (0) DAP-ID-X (X), or iso (1) identified-organization (3) oiw (14) odasig (11) image-appl (1) DAP-ID-Y (Y). The two object identifiers to be used for the ODA Raster DAP are: iso (1) identified-organization (3) oiw (14) odasig (11) image-appl (1) raster-dap-odif (1), and iso (1) identified-organization (3) oiw (14) odasig (11) image-appl (1) raster-dap-sdif (2). The Image applications subgroup presented five motions to be presented at the OIW plenary. After presentation and discussion, the following were voted: 1) Request "Informal Quality Service" review from SGFS for Stable Agreements Part 22 and Part 23. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0) 2) Liaison to AOW and EWOS submitting the ODA Image DAP and the ODA Raster DAP for review. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). 3) Make editorial changes to Working Agreements Part 23, ODA Raster DAP, and move all changes to the Stable Agreements. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). 4) Make editorial changes to Working Agreements Part 22, ODA Image DAP, and move all changes to the Stable Agreements. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). 5) Add Document Application Profile (DAP) Object Identifiers to the Stable Agreements Part 23 ODA Raster DAP. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). The Text Processing subgroup presented four motions to be presented at the OIW plenary. After presentation and discussion the following were voted: 1) Add new text for Working Agreements Part 17 which is the Implementation Support Requirements for FOD26 (ISP 11181-2 draft). (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). 2) Liaison to EWOS, AOW, and CCITT providing input on the action needed to successfully harmonize the ISR proforma. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). Minutes 4 3) Liaison to EWOS, AOW, and CCITT submitting the OIW ISR document as the revised ISR proforma and presenting OIW ODA SIG positions concerning the ISR proforma and the use of database proposed by EWOS. (yes=6, no=0, abstain=0). 4) Liaison to EWOS, AOW, and CCITT submitting the editting instructions for FOD26 that enhance the functionality of FOD26. (yes=7, no=0, abstain=0). Other business included creation of three liaisons: 1. Discussion of plans for PAGODA #12 and reviewed a proposed agenda. 2. Review of the charter was proposed as a work item. This work needs to be considered in conjunction with item 3. 3. Discussion of future plans and the use of the planning charts provided. Mr. Wing pointed out that the planning charts are useful in helping the SIG keep track of work items so that they are not lost. He also pointed out that the planning charts should reflect the charter. Future meetings are: FOD Editor's meeting, July 20, 1992 in Tokyo, Japan. PAGODA 12 in Dallas, Texas, October 19-23, 1992. The next OIW ODA SIG meeting is Sept 21, 1992 in Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA. Minutes 5 ================================================================== Text Processing Subgroup Report Submitted by J. Wing The Text Processing subgroup met Wednesday, Jun 10, 1991, during the OSI Implementors Workshop in Gaithersburg, MD. Attendees were: Patrick Stephens, DEC Greg Varga, Keyword Jim Wing, IBM USA The Text Processing subgroup: - Reviewed technical proposals on Test Case Directory and Test case documents that are to make up the Part 3 of the ISPs. o No one was familiar with the intended use of the documents. The members agreed to look up and review the information for the next meeting. - Reviewed, modified, and reaffirmed proposed OIW Implementation Support Requirements (ISR) document based on PAGODA #11 agreements. * ISR editor (J. Wing) will update the current document. * Future work on ISR includes incorporating changes due to changes in the DAPs currently occurring, especially the geometric graphics changes. - Submit the ISR document as added text in the working agreements Part 17. - Reviewed EWOS proposals for ISR proforma and database proposal o Prepared a liaison to EWOS, AOW, and CCITT submitting the revised OIW ISR document and stating the position that tentative agreements reached at PAGODA #11 as implemented in the OIW ISR proposal are a major step towards harmonization. * Also state the position of OIW ODA SIG regarding the use of the database, that is, the database is a tool that may be used to create proforma, but does not provide a proforma. The database must contain harmonized fields and content equivalent to a harmonized ISR to be considered adequate as a generator of ISR proforma documents. o Prepared a liaison to EWOS, AOW, and CCITT identifying a list of function units missing from the EWOS ISR proposal and identifying other items needed to complete the harmonization. - Reviewed proposal for enhancement to FOD26 for North American word processing products. o Prepared a liaison to EWOS, AOW, and CCITT submitting editing instructions for FOD26 to accomplish the proposed enhancements and recommending fast path approval. Enhancements include the addition of simple tables, lists, and referencing for Table of Contents based on FOD36. o Action items: * Provide editing instructions - Stephens * Provide ASCII flat file form of FOD26E so that we can create a working agreements document - Stephens * Determine the Fast Path procedures - Wing * Obtain new part in working agreeements for this DAP - Wing Minutes 6 ================================================================== ODA SIG Image Applications Subgroup Minutes of June 9-11 Meeting Submitted by Frank Spielman The Image Applications Subgroup of the ODA SIG met on Wednesday, June 10, 1992. Attendees were: Rick Pond, IBM Canada Les Potter, PRC Annette Shuford, Navy/DTMB Frank Spielman, NIST The subgroup reviewed and approved minor editorial changes to Working Agreements Part 22 (ODA Image DAP) and Part 23 (ODA Raster DAP). The changes were to clarify defaults for Type-of-Coding in informative annex D (Table D.3), add CCITT Recommendation T.4 to the list of references in clause 2, and add a note clarifying the use of ODA-version. (4-0-0) The subgroup reviewed and discussed the comments in SGFS ISP Ballot Resolution documents on FOD11/26/36. Many of the comments did not apply to our DAPs. Others may apply, but it wasn't clear what some of the resolutions were. The subgroup determined that no additional changes should be made at this time. After the subgroup receives the editing instructions and final text on the FODs, then our two DAPs can be reviewed for consistency with the FODs. The subgroup approved moving the changed paragraphs in Working Agreements Part 22 and Part 23 to the Stable Agreements. This includes the minor editorial changes identified above as well as all the text that was approved at the March workshop. (4-0-0) DAP Object Identifiers were discussed and the subgroup approved adding identifiers for ODIF and SDIF in Part 23 of the Stable Agreements. Because this is considered a technical change directly to the stable agreements which could fail to be approved by the OIW, an alternative position was developed. This position was to have a "fallback" motion available which was to make the change to the working agreements and move to stable in September. The actual values for the Object Identifiers had to be determined at the ODA SIG plenary. (4-0-0) Documents from SGFS concerning "Informal Quality Service" were reviewed and discussed. The subgroup approved submitting Parts 22 and 23 of the Stable Agreements to SGFS for SC18 review and comment. (4-0-0) The subgroup approved submitting to EWOS and AOW Parts 22 and 23 as contributions to PAGODA #12. (4-0-0) Minutes 7 The subgroup discussed the requirements for development of the Raster DAP ISR. Different alternatives for addressing CALS and AIIM requirements were discussed but no decisions were made. Each member is to review the working document (OIW ODA 92/350 R1) and prepare suggestions for Generator and Receiver requirements for the next OIW meeting. The subgroup also discussed abstract test cases but needs additional assistance and documentation before work can continue in this area. Items for future work were discussed. For the next meeting, members are to review the OIW ODA SIG work plan and make recommendations. We discussed adding colour/grey scale to the DAPs without making any decisions on an approach. We need the republished standard which includes the colour/grey scale addendum. Also needed is the capability to do JPEG compression.