Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions resistance
ianG <iang@iang.org> Fri, 04 January 2013 06:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions resistance
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On 3/01/13 19:17 PM, Jon Callas wrote: > The proposal that we had a long time ago which was essentially prefix a hash with an algorithm number was a good one. I remember everyone thinking it was a good idea and no one belling the cat. I vaguely remember someone writing up an I-D on it, too. > > That's the way I'd go, as it's future-proofed. If we have to have hash agility, I agree that's a good way to do it. Alternatively we can do OIDs in which case we will generate arguments, external dependencies and work for ourselves for generations -- over on another list some were arguing recently about whether Taiwan was allowed to use this OID or that OID for their root key, Taiwan being one of those not-a-countries, and everyone arguing being not-those-authorities. Hence my earlier question - has anyone allocated the OpenPGP numbers for Keccak as yet? The reason I asked is because I stumbled on the code last week and thought what a fine idea it would be to at least prepare the way.... Strawman? SHA3-224 4 12 SHA3-256 5 13 SHA3-384 6 14 SHA3-512 7 15 Strawman? I'm not sure why there is a gap 4-7 in rfc4880. Are there any spots already allocated? Another question, back on the fingerprints. If we end up doing a hash-agile fingerprint, how does the algorithm number get laid out by the users on their business cards? E.g., can we agree on a one byte number, values 0 to 7F, with leading bit reserved for future escape valve? Then, if it is to be written out, this would mean a "new-style fingerprint" is always an odd number of bytes. Could we agree on a stylistic convention? Something like: 7F-- AB01 CD23 EF45 ... Just thinking aloud. Are there any other practical ramifications of going to an agile fingerprint? iang
- [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions resis… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… ianG
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Nicholas Cole
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Tony Hansen
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… ianG
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… ianG
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… ianG
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Christian Aistleitner
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… jbar
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Christian Aistleitner
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… ianG
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Bill Frantz
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… Nicholas Cole
- Re: [openpgp] Fingerprints and their collisions r… ianG