Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts
Aaron Zauner <azet@azet.org> Wed, 04 November 2015 17:34 UTC
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 18:34:33 +0100
From: Aaron Zauner <azet@azet.org>
To: Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org>
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* Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> [04/11/2015 12:51:25] wrote: > > o Added Camellia cipher from RFC 5581. Hrm. I'm against this. CAMELLIA is going to be deprecated in e.g. TLS because barely anyone uses it. I'm explicitly excluding anything other than AES128 or 256 from my GnuPG config currently, I haven't noticed any breakage in almost a year: https://github.com/azet/dotfiles/blob/master/.gnupg/gpg.conf If we're all going to choose our favorite cipher, without real arguments as to new security features or performance, we're going to end up like this: https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xhtml The ECC addition makes sense, but I'd also limit the number of possible curves to a few vetted ones instead of verbatim including all those NIST curves. For example: do we want to keep P256? Or are we going with a higher 'security level' alltogether? I consider this cruft that should be removed. Why not just use Curve25519 and Goldilocks? (Again; sorry if that has already been discussed, I've been very busy the last couple of months and didn't follow every e-mail thread, though I tired to look these topics up by searching them) Aaron
- [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Aaron Zauner
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts brian m. carlson
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Aaron Zauner
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Aaron Zauner
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Robert J. Hansen
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Ian G
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Aaron Zauner
- Re: [openpgp] First 4880bis drafts Aaron Zauner