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Re: [OPS-AREA] [v6ops] Heads up

"George, Wes E IV [NTK]" <Wesley.E.George@sprint.com> Tue, 09 November 2010 05:44 UTC

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From: "George, Wes E IV [NTK]" <Wesley.E.George@sprint.com>
To: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>, IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>, "ops-area@ietf.org" <ops-area@ietf.org>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [OPS-AREA] [v6ops] Heads up
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From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Fred Baker
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:30 AM
Subject: [v6ops] Heads up

>Chris Liljenstolpe has a proposal that he made in ops-area today, for a
mechanism to >create what amounts to an >RFC 1918 prefix, but specifically
for use in NAT444 ISP configurations. It involves a request to the ARIN
board. >He will write a quick draft and post it this week, discuss this
Thursday in the Ops WG, and call the question in >Friday's v6ops meeting.
Due to the real time nature of the discussion, I'll ask folks to be aware
and follow it.

I don't understand why we're writing *another* draft about this. Others have
mentioned the other drafts that are floating around (and being shot down),
but here they are:
http://zinfandel.levkowetz.com/html/draft-weil-opsawg-provider-address-space
-02
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shirasaki-isp-shared-addr-05 

Use one of those, add any arguments that they have not already covered.

However, I like others who have posted am very much against this idea. 
I have yet to see a good explanation as to why we should squander such a
limited resource because multiple sets of 1918 space is hard to manage, and
squatting on unannounced legacy space (DoD and others) so that you have a /8
or two to play internally with is equal parts risky and evil. It's a bad
situation, but this doesn't solve it.

From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Ronald Bonica

>BTW, the LISP WG is talking about asking for a prefix for a very similar
reason.

And I told *them* it was a bad idea too. 

Wes George

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