Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provider-address-space-00.txt
Victor Kuarsingh <victor.kuarsingh@gmail.com> Wed, 04 August 2010 22:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provider-address-space-00.txt
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Joel, Just to chime in on a couple of points: It is correct that a /8 will not solve "all" problems (many operators may exceed two /8s worth of space), but utilizing and overlapping (if needed) on 32 million addresses is obviously more workable then with 16 million. It also allows the detachment of the traditional (and sometimes private) use of RFC1918 with the newer use as a transition tool enabler. I do get the impression that many take the opinion that if an option is not perfect, then let's not do it at all. Additionally, this space is targeted to help transition. Operators will need to replace (for some transition techs like NAT444 w/dual stack and 6RD) what was a "public/assigned" address with something that is not (ex. RFC1918 or other). RFC1918 is both exhausted or near exhaustion in many networks and IS problematic when used to connect customer/enterprise environments to the access/provider network (sure it works in some cases, but in others it is problematic). As you know, the more controls that are placed on a request/draft proposal, the more endless debate is spawned, and in this case, the opportunity dies (since IPv4 run out is very near). I believe the 1/8 was listed as an example (not a recommendation). You are correct, there are advertisements (as seen on the global table), but other "polluted" blocks exist. Providers will need to solve a number of problems simultaneously which in the end - if problematic - only hurts the end consumer. The poor guy who suffers from our endless academic debates of "what to do" is the guy who wants to surf the net, play online games, or just does what he wills on the Internet. I do see adding a tool the toolkit is a worthwhile endeavor. On the point where large providers see a /8 as a usable/and significant benefit as a IPv6 migration option he would be correct. We have input from MSOs (Cable), Telcos and yes, Mobile Operators (not small ones to boot). Again, this input was taken from operators who have solid IPv6 plans and deployments in place, but have or will run out racetrack to extend IPv4 to bridge the gap to IPv6 (even native dual stack needs an IPv4 address for now - not withstanding NAT64 and DS-Lite options which are still being baked). Also, recall that content providers and consumer equipment vendors lag in IPv6 capabilities so no amount of IPv6 provider connectivity will fix that instantly. Regards, Victor On 04/08/10 4:44 PM, "Joel Jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com> wrote: > On 8/4/10 12:16 PM, Chris Donley wrote: >> Operators accept that IPv6 is the long-term answer to this problem, >> but in the short-term, key products DO NOT currently have sufficient >> IPv6 support to enable it today, or to disable IPv4 support once IPv6 >> is enabled. Both protocols will have to coexist for a while, and >> customers will demand IPv4 service even after IPv4 space is >> exhausted. We don't have the luxury today of repeating the NCP-IPv4 >> transition plan from 1983: NCP was completely disabled on 1/1/83, and >> parts of the Internet were unavailable for months afterwards. > > I'm not sure for whose benefit you're explaining this, I've had dual > stack networks in operation since 2001 and I'm feeling the same ipv4 > addressing pressure that you are. the fact that there will be no flag > day should be obvious to everyone on this list. > >> So where do we go from here? The IETF has identified a number of >> transition/coexistence technologies that deal with users' needs to >> continue IPv4 support, and also allow IPv6 deployments even before >> all of the devices have sufficient IPv6 support. Two promising >> technologies are NAT444 and 6RD (non-exhaustive list). Unfortunately, >> both of them require IPv4 address space between the CE router and the >> CGN/BR/etc. device. This is the problem our draft is addressing. > > No, this draft is taking a /8 from the free pool and assigning it for > private use. A private use address pool already exists. and is by your > assertion not sufficient for the purpose. > >> draft-azinger-additional-private-ipv4-space-issues does a good job >> describing the available options and the issues with each. Each of >> the options is problematic. >> >> Of all of the bad options, we believe requesting a /8 to be shared >> among operators is least bad. > > you are in fact not requesting that it be shared by operators, you are > assigning it to the pool of private use addresses. and you are hoping > that through some form of magic it will be less impactful that reusing > the existing private use addresses. > >> We can deal with the operational >> impacts; they are more predictable than with some of the other >> options. Even 'polluted' address space is acceptable. However, it >> becomes operationally difficult to have the same private space on >> both sides of the CE router. So, given the prevalence of Net-10, >> operators need another address block of comparable size to support >> these deployments of NAT444 and 6RD. > > then you draft should propose a mechanism by which operators can be > assigned use of the prefix because as it stands right now it's simply > assigned under the private use definition, which means the rest of us > are going to use it immediately. > > We can even use 'polluted' >> space (e.g. 1/8, which was recently assigned to APNIC). > > Have you looked in your routing table? 1/8 is being assigned. so you're > a little late to the party on that. Any prefix assigned to an rir from > the IANA free pool will be used, no matter how "polluted" it might be. > > just a small sampling... > > 1.9.0.0/16 *[BGP/170] 1w1d 08:54:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4788 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 23:56:55, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2828 2914 4788 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.11.128.0/17 *[BGP/170] 08:52:16, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 2828 9318 38091 17839 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 2w2d 13:53:00, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 2828 9318 38091 17839 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.12.0.0/14 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4134 4847 18245 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 10:29:36, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 4134 4847 18245 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.12.0.0/24 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4134 4847 18245 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 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45528 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 04:45:26, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 1239 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.22.146.0/24 *[BGP/170] 4d 09:34:34, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:46:30, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 1239 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.22.147.0/24 *[BGP/170] 4d 09:34:34, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 06:28:35, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.22.148.0/24 *[BGP/170] 4d 09:34:34, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:13:02, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 6453 4755 24186 24186 45528 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.22.151.0/24 *[BGP/170] 4d 09:34:34, localpref 100 > AS 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xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 10:15:20, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.32.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 04:28:17, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.64.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 19:43:32, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.96.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:18, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.128.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:52:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.160.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:13:35, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.192.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 23:37:51, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.36.224.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 11:17:32, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3561 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.38.0.0/15 *[BGP/170] 08:34:14, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 9498 9583 38266 ? >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 18:25:53, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 6453 4755 38266 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.38.0.0/17 *[BGP/170] 08:34:14, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 9498 9583 38266 ? >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 09:35:03, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 6453 4755 38266 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.38.128.0/17 *[BGP/170] 08:34:14, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 9498 9583 38266 ? >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 01:55:23, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 6453 4755 38266 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.39.0.0/17 *[BGP/170] 08:34:14, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 9498 9583 38266 ? >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 06:14:57, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 6453 4755 38266 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.39.128.0/17 *[BGP/170] 08:34:14, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 9498 9583 38266 ? >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 18:20:16, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 6453 4755 38266 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.46.0.0/16 *[BGP/170] 1d 03:37:45, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 38082 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 22:25:22, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.46.0.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 6453 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:36:44, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 174 6453 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.46.64.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:10:00, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.46.128.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:04:21, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.46.192.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:15:37, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3561 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.47.0.0/16 *[BGP/170] 1d 03:37:45, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 38082 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 08:29:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 38082 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.47.0.0/18 *[BGP/170] 5d 17:53:12, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:34:33, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 4651 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.47.64.0/18 *[BGP/170] 1d 03:37:45, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 38082 9587 24378 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 17:42:08, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 38082 9587 24378 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.51.0.0/16 *[BGP/170] 03:09:59, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 3320 4538 4538 4538 4538 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 1d 06:15:32, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3257 10026 4538 4538 4538 4538 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.52.0.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:52:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.0.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 10:20:56, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.16.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:26:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.32.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 09:40:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.48.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 00:02:42, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.64.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:18, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.64.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 03:09:46, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.80.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:20:21, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.96.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 10:59:42, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.112.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 17:54:21, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.128.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 14:56:40, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.128.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:04:16, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3561 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.144.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 06:05:03, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.160.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 09:20:44, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.176.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 06:29:09, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.192.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 14:11:52, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.192.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 01:55:23, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.208.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:50:34, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.224.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:32:20, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.52.240.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 19:32:57, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.0.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:50:48, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.0.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:52:06, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.16.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:04:15, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.32.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:50:59, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.48.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 18:18:44, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.64.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:18, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.64.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:03:01, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.80.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:30:39, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.96.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:09:59, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.112.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:45:23, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.128.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:52:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.128.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:29:13, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.144.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 18:48:53, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2828 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.160.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:08:26, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.176.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 06:25:26, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2828 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.192.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:50:48, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.192.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:08:25, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.208.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:08:25, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.224.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 04:03:41, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.53.240.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:08:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2828 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.0.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 00:37:34, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.0.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 01:45:44, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.16.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 01:55:23, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.32.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 16:30:38, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.48.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:05:17, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.64.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:48, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.64.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 06:16:31, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.80.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 08:03:23, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.96.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 18:12:38, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.112.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 06:12:47, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.128.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:52:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.128.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:33:42, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.144.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 04:34:30, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.160.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:52:25, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.176.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 10:08:12, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.192.0/18 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:48, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.192.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:00:15, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.208.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:32:20, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2828 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.224.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:47:41, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.54.240.0/20 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 01:55:23, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 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14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.64.0/18 *[BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:05:53, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.55.64.0/20 *[BGP/170] 18:47:22, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.80.0/20 *[BGP/170] 14:01:42, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.96.0/20 *[BGP/170] 05:34:56, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.112.0/20 *[BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:56:54, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.55.128.0/18 *[BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:48:46, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 4134 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.55.128.0/20 *[BGP/170] 14:58:11, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.144.0/20 *[BGP/170] 18:21:47, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via 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path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.224.0/20 *[BGP/170] 04:38:39, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.55.240.0/20 *[BGP/170] 16:10:11, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > [BGP/170] 6d 12:10:10, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 18403 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > 1.56.0.0/13 *[BGP/170] 1w4d 22:56:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 6453 4837 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:33:42, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 1239 4837 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.0.0/15 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:48, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.0.0/16 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:48, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.0.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:18, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.32.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 00:52:06, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 2914 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.64.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 17:47:09, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.96.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 01:28:00, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3561 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.128.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:50:45, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.160.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 12:46:47, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.192.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:52:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 1239 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.64.224.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 02:24:57, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.0.0/16 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:23:28, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.0.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 13:00:06, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 1239 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.32.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 05:57:55, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 22212 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.64.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 01:46:58, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.96.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:52:19, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.128.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 03:08:25, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.160.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 15:51:18, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3257 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.192.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 07:50:34, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 7018 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > 1.65.224.0/19 *[BGP/170] 3w0d 07:42:24, localpref 100 > AS path: 1248 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 131.228.142.93 via xe-5/0/0.3000 > [BGP/170] 1d 15:17:30, localpref 100 > AS path: 14745 3549 3491 4760 I >> to 64.94.3.69 via xe-5/1/0.0 > > >> Regarding the size of our request, we've spoken with a number of very >> large operators, even those that have exceeded a /8 on their >> networks, and believe that a /8 is sufficient to support NAT444 and >> 6RD deployments until users migrate to IPv6. > > And... you'd be wrong, try talking to some mobile carriers, next please. > >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- From: opsawg-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:opsawg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel Jaeggli Sent: >> Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:09 PM To: OPSAWG@ietf.org Subject: >> [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provider-address-space-00.txt >> >> I re-read the draft on me way home from the IETF an I've reached the >> same conclusion that I arrived at during opsawg... >> >> At best this proposal does not achieve it's aim. simply assigning >> another prefix under the 5226 definition of private use does nothing >> to address the issue of address overlap, not only is an additional /8 >> not sufficient in large provider networks, but there's not reason to >> suspect that additional applications of a new private prefix will >> not immediately spring up. >> >> o RFC1918 Overlap: Utilization of separate assignment can remove >> the challenge of [RFC1918] address overlap between the home network >> environment and the provider network. >> >> Any alleviation of this assignment would provide is at best >> temporary. >> >> o Removes need to use bogon/non-assigned Space: Providers can avoid >> the use of bogon and/or non-assigned space (to the local party) >> within their networks. This type of address usage can be problematic >> to customers. >> >> There won't be any non-assigned prefixes in the future. and the >> people doing this today are living on borrowed time on the basis of >> bad decisions they made in the past. holding out home of renumbering >> into virgin space is essentially defering and expense into the future >> with an incrementaly lower but cumulatively more expensive solution >> becasue and a addtional /8 isn't large enough to preclude the need >> for parallel address deployements and renumbering remains a costly >> exercise. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ OPSAWG mailing list >> OPSAWG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg >> > > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg
- [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provider-ad… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… Chris Donley
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… Chris Donley
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… David Kessens
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… Chris Donley
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… David Kessens
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… Chris Donley
- Re: [OPSAWG] comment on draft-weil-opsawg-provide… David Kessens