[OPSAWG] A proposal on draft-aitken-ipfix-unobserved-fields

"Wayne Tackabury" <wtackabury@us.ibm.com> Mon, 05 October 2015 20:01 UTC

Return-Path: <wtackabury@us.ibm.com>
X-Original-To: opsawg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: opsawg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED4F1B4F86 for <opsawg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:01:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.108
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG=0.377, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T6pXy69erX_Z for <opsawg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9A801B4F88 for <opsawg@ietf.org>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:01:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost by e34.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for <opsawg@ietf.org> from <wtackabury@us.ibm.com>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:01:47 -0600
Received: from d03dlp03.boulder.ibm.com (9.17.202.179) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (192.168.1.134) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:01:37 -0600
X-IBM-Helo: d03dlp03.boulder.ibm.com
X-IBM-MailFrom: wtackabury@us.ibm.com
X-IBM-RcptTo: opsawg@ietf.org
Received: from b03cxnp08025.gho.boulder.ibm.com (b03cxnp08025.gho.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.130.17]) by d03dlp03.boulder.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB7F19D803F for <opsawg@ietf.org>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:49:49 -0600 (MDT)
Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by b03cxnp08025.gho.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id t95K0LFv63701096 for <opsawg@ietf.org>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:00:21 -0700
Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id t95K1ZJ4009225 for <opsawg@ietf.org>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:01:35 -0600
Received: from d50lp02.ny.us.ibm.com (d50lp02.pok.ibm.com [146.89.104.208]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id t95K1Xhu008944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <opsawg@ietf.org>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:01:34 -0600
Message-Id: <201510052001.t95K1Xhu008944@d03av01.boulder.ibm.com>
Received: from /spool/local by d50lp02.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for <opsawg@ietf.org> from <wtackabury@us.ibm.com>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:01:30 -0400
Received: from smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com (192.155.248.67) by d50lp02.ny.us.ibm.com (158.87.18.21) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256/256) Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:01:27 -0400
Received: from /spool/local by smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com with smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com ESMTP for <opsawg@ietf.org> from <wtackabury@us.ibm.com>; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 20:01:26 -0000
Received: from us1a3-smtp01.a3.dal06.isc4sb.com (10.106.154.100) by smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com (10.106.227.16) with smtp.notes.na.collabserv.com ESMTP; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 20:00:52 -0000
Received: from us1a3-mail64.a3.dal09.isc4sb.com ([10.142.3.135]) by us1a3-smtp01.a3.dal06.isc4sb.com with ESMTP id 2015100520011256-505146 ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 20:01:12 +0000
In-Reply-To:
From: Wayne Tackabury <wtackabury@us.ibm.com>
To: opsawg@ietf.org
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 20:00:51 +0000
Sensitivity:
References:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Importance: Normal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-Mailer: Lotus Domino Web Server Build V851SAAS_09212015_FP3 September 28, 2015
X-LLNOutbound: False
X-Disclaimed: 65195
X-TNEFEvaluated: 1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
x-cbid: 15100520-0017-0000-0000-00000E64B7AA
X-IBM-ISS-SpamDetectors: Score=0.40304; BY=0; FL=0; FP=0; FZ=0; HX=0; KW=0; PH=0; SC=0.40304; ST=0; TS=0; UL=0; ISC=
X-IBM-ISS-DetailInfo: BY=3.00004472; HX=3.00000236; KW=3.00000007; PH=3.00000004; SC=3.00000117; SDB=6.00598493; UDB=6.00262312; UTC=2015-10-05 20:01:25
x-cbparentid: 15100520-5938-0000-0000-00000076441D
X-TM-AS-MML: disable
X-Content-Scanned: Fidelis XPS MAILER
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/cgkmS-rDFafGm618VMinQW1eseo>
Cc: paitken@brocade.com
Subject: [OPSAWG] A proposal on draft-aitken-ipfix-unobserved-fields
X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List <opsawg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/opsawg>, <mailto:opsawg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/opsawg/>
List-Post: <mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:opsawg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg>, <mailto:opsawg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 20:01:50 -0000

Hi all:
 
In work we are doing here, we have found rather compelling value, to put it mildly, in the scope and techniques which are covered in a draft which was submitted to the now-closed IPFIX working group,  draft-aitken-ipfix-unobserved-fields.  Its latest manifestation (as a -.03 rev) is to be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-aitken-ipfix-unobserved-fields/" rel="nofollow">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-aitken-ipfix-unobserved-fields/.
 
This was submitting when the wg was in its closing throes.  HIstory from the list was unearthed by Paul Aitken indicating that the draft has value, but had not yet received sufficient list commentary to move forward, at the exact moment that wg closure was sought.
 
I have reached out to that original author and the wg chair, Benoit Claise, who is an active member of this area wg as well of course.  Benoit recommended that in the current state of the IPFIX wg, that I approach this area wg with an interest in revival and refinement of this draft (which I am willing to particpate in), with an eye towards its eventual elevation to be a companion to the other Proposed Standard RFCs produced by the IPFIX WG.
 
It is in that spirit I submit this post, I hope my protocol of approach is in order.  If there is another viable strategy for elevation of this draft than wg reactivation, please let me know.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Wayne Tackabury
IBM Security Systems