Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-14.txt

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 24 January 2018 12:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-14.txt
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Hi Med,

Please see below:


On 24.01.18 12:54, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
>

> My understanding from draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-14 is that acl-type
> remains acl-type.  acl-name became name.  But you're right- rule-name
> became name as well.  I will adjust the text accordingly.
>
> [Med] I guess you meant -15. I confirm that acl-type is to be changed
> too. Below an excerpt of the acl tree structure:
>
>  
>
>      +--rw access-lists
>
>         +--rw acl* [name]
>
>         |  +--rw name    string
>
>         |  +--rw type?   acl-type
>
>  
>
> * This sentence should be carefully updated as well: “With the
> exceptions of "name", "acl-type", "rule-name", and TCP and”.
> * I guess the examples should be checked to align with the new ACL
> structure. For example,
>  - “ipv6-acl” entries should be updated to “ipv6”.

You're right.  I stand corrected.  And I spotted the error in the
example.  Will correct.
>
>
> Which is the text I adjusted ;-)
>
> [Med] Yes. I was referring to the examples.
>
>  - add “l3” entry before “ipv4” and “ipv6”.
>
>
> I think this is done in the normative text but you're right- it needs
> to be corrected in the examples.
>
>
> * It would useful to add a justification why it is not recommended to
> support 'reject' action.
>
>
> Ok, I'll add some text.
>
> [Med] Thank you. BTW, wouldn’t you need a rate-limit action to
> “protect” against exhausting Thing resources?
>

I don't think that's appropriate at this point.  For one thing, it goes
well beyond what many implementations can actually do.  For another, it
may be asking a bit much of the manufacturers to predict this sort of
behavior, and it will be easy to get wrong.  I would suggest this be
handled later as we get some additional operational experience.

Eliot