Re: [OPSEC] OpSec@IETF117: Meeting minutes

[Arnaud Taddei <[e-mail]>]

Hi Jen, thank you to recognize I am just trying to be a good citizen here and to learn and understand.

And I did learn a few things in this email thread (tx Tom (1))

Irt “For example, I'm absolutely incapable of typing and listening at the same time... »

I agree, and I wish I could have the same model as here to have somebody takes note (thank you Henk) when I chair in other meetings in another SDO.

But I don’t and indeed it is a torture to chair AND take notes AND write the minutes (and I mean real formal ones).

Lucky you here.

Thank you for the updates, all good, keep doing.

Best Regards

PS

(1) @Tom on webmail formatting issue, agree, I more and more regret my VT100 and pine as a brave IMAP client

From: Jen Linkova <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, 9 August 2023 at 18:08
To: Arnaud Taddei <[e-mail]>
Cc: opsec WG <[e-mail]>, OpSec Chairs <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [OPSEC] OpSec@IETF117: Meeting minutes
Hi Arnaud,

First of all, thank you for reading the minutes and providing
corrections and feedback ;)

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 1:58 AM Arnaud Taddei <[e-mail]> wrote:
> As I am still learning the IETF, I am a bit surprised. If ‘minutes’ mean ‘a script of what was said on the mic’ then this is ok. But as chair in another world, I have other expectations if these mean minutes:
>
> The minimum I expect is what is the decision made for each point in clear text, something like:
> “the group decides X” | “the group adopts Y” | “the group doesn’t adopt Z but recommends W as a way forward”

In general, you are right. The minutes are not expected to be a
detailed transcript, more like a summary of important points.
In the case of this particular session, I do not think any decisions
were actually made. I've updated the minutes to make it explicit
what's expected for the first two presentations.

> Actually the quote: “in the EU there is big DORA, capability of the EU to do pentesting, maybe look at that if that is "adding water to your mill »
>
> This quote is attributed to Fernando but it was actually me 😊

That's exactly why I asked the group to read the minutes. Remember
that at the IETF we do not have professional stenographers. The
minutes are taken by volunteers, who are also participating in the
discussion.
For example, I'm absolutely incapable of typing and listening at the
same time...

> I would prefer it to be amended a bit as right now it doesn’t translate right (and I can’t listen the replay right now):
>
>                                                                i.      “in the EU there is the big DORA regulation which gives the EU the capability to do pentesting using its TIBER-EU model, maybe [Fernando] look at that if that is "adding water to your mill »

Done. PTAL and let me know if any changes are needed.

> From: OPSEC <[e-mail]> on behalf of Jen Linkova <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 10:36
> To: opsec WG <[e-mail]>
> Cc: OpSec Chairs <[e-mail]>
> Subject: [OPSEC] OpSec@IETF117: Meeting minutes
>
> Hello,
>
> The meeting minutes from the IETF117 OpSec session have been published:
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/minutes-117-opsec-202307272230%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1692088607000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw3WLg34HD6PvFII0gWatbkL&source=gmail-imap&ust=1692202091000000&usg=AOvVaw0_A0LsqsEL_dzcsaSl9zT0
>
> Many thanks to Henk for taking them!
>
> If you said smth during the session pls check the minutes and ensure
> that your comment was captured correctly.
> Please let the chairs know if you think the minutes need to be amended.
>
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