Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-control-plane-00
Rodney Dunn <rodunn@cisco.com> Sat, 06 February 2010 01:30 UTC
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. We'll go back and see if/where/how we can work something around that in. It is a valid point for sure. On a side note...what if there were netflow on the control plane per class with drop codes in the export data? ;) On 2/4/10 10:24 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:41 PM, John Kristoff<jtk@cymru.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:31:07 -0800 >> Joel Jaeggli<joelja@bogus.com> wrote: >> >>> I notes with interest today the initial publication of: >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dugal-opsec-protect-control-plane-00 >>> >>> for which I am certain review and feedback would be greatly >>> appreciated. >> >> I realize there is a -01 version of this draft. Nonetheless, this >> comment still applies. >> >> One of the major stumbling blocks in managing control plane filtering >> in my experience has been when a platform lacks sufficient diagnostic > > yes, if you can block/limit it, you MUST be able to log that fact, and > count that fact. Otherwise it because exceptionally difficult to get a > tcpdump on that sonet link to your neighbor... > >> capability such as control plane filter logging. Perhaps some mention >> of this in the Design Trade-offs section might include some text >> highlighting this concern. Rate limiting can be particularly >> troublesome when "bad" traffic starves the "good". > > it might be nice to have special macros for 'bgp neighbors' or 'local > interfaces' or 'connected networks'. to make configuration management > easier... of course those could be called 'implementation details' but > :) > > now I'll go read the doc, and hopefully provide some comments. > > -Chris > >> >> John >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OPSEC mailing list >> OPSEC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec >> > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec
- [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-control-… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Smith, Donald
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Rodney Dunn
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Rodney Dunn
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… John Kristoff
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Rodney Dunn
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… John Kristoff
- Re: [OPSEC] noted: draft-dugal-opsec-protect-cont… Smith, Donald