[OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00
"Vishwas Manral" <vishwas.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 24 January 2008 19:28 UTC
Return-path: <ospf-bounces@ietf.org>
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JI7kC-0006ZW-0l; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:28:12 -0500
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JI7kB-0006ZQ-1B for ospf@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:28:11 -0500
Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.182]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JI7kA-00077x-Ko for ospf@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:28:11 -0500
Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j27so71444elf.25 for <ospf@ietf.org>; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:28:10 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1GSLIgPPwGPcVtthy6wtIgurRA6K/YKh88HbC5+elGs=; b=D592mFx2v2t1BLV60RrVjcQ4I2jIEav/65Gku4CZFLKUxHEzVNDrQc+g+2VQas8Kckzb/uIo6YwmBMg8UEtEP0gP5NAXBW8NFLo9/6g6g0ABrbO9t7YlJWhnoUvy1ofd5GQANCDyPX9iEW36x3jTES4RKMEO3AwtXhZDGiYxDzg=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I4qiQKOhdAsy8CW/XXoItwleI2z5TfPfjDYuH13xuq2IiRvS6oTIpU3F3/wbumSd56YIHyr30Iqf3GLbTeZWXH4Wtpl7NAILk8n30KE7wzekqIFXbc4e+wvxjaERnnaYciQJncjkVIWjkU4S1vyv4AICU77f+PbzdIfbV8ILZKM=
Received: by 10.142.158.17 with SMTP id g17mr658384wfe.234.1201202889492; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:28:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.142.102.19 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:28:09 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <77ead0ec0801241128rd8786a9qe5f5f1dd6aedc80f@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:28:09 -0800
From: Vishwas Manral <vishwas.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Acee Lindem <acee@redback.com>
In-Reply-To: <FA8A6B7C-F299-4FFF-A633-E716626B7B45@redback.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
References: <77ead0ec0801240949y123f577au9dc36b99694a506@mail.gmail.com> <FA8A6B7C-F299-4FFF-A633-E716626B7B45@redback.com>
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 31247fb3be228bb596db9127becad0bc
Cc: OSPF List <ospf@ietf.org>
Subject: [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00
X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List <ospf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf>, <mailto:ospf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/ospf>
List-Post: <mailto:ospf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ospf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf>, <mailto:ospf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: ospf-bounces@ietf.org
Hi Acee, Thanks a lot for the reply. The backward compatibility issue would come unless there would be the case that the draft would not use instance ID 0 (when working with a router not supporting the functionality - where it would be treated as no instance - rather than a particular instance). May be that could be clarified. I understand what you mean - but would using LLS (which is now a part of standards track now) be of any more help? Thanks again, Vishwas On Jan 24, 2008 10:56 AM, Acee Lindem <acee@redback.com> wrote: > Hi Vishwas, > > From a protocol standpoint, it is completely backward compatible. OSPF > routers not supporting the draft but receiving a multicast OSPF packet with > a non-zero instance ID will simply treat it as an unknown AuType and fail > authentication. > > With this respect, RFC 2328 simply states: > > > 8.2. Receiving protocol packets > o > o > o > o The packet must be authenticated. The authentication > procedure is indicated by the setting of AuType (see > Appendix D). The authentication procedure may use one or > more Authentication keys, which can be configured on a per- > interface basis. The authentication procedure may also > verify the checksum field in the OSPF packet header (which, > when used, is set to the standard IP 16-bit one's complement > checksum of the OSPF packet's contents after excluding the > 64-bit authentication field). If the authentication > procedure fails, the packet should be discarded. > > > And: > > > D.5 Message verification > > When an OSPF packet has been received on an interface, it must > be authenticated. The authentication procedure is indicated by > the setting of Autype in the standard OSPF packet header, which > matches the setting of Autype for the receiving OSPF interface. > > If an OSPF protocol packet is accepted as authentic, processing > of the packet continues as specified in Section 8.2. Packets > which fail authentication are discarded. > > Speaking as a draft author (not OSPF WG Co-chair): > > Unfortunately, some well-deployed implementations make a bigger fuss than is > necessary when an authentication failure occurs. IMHO, now would be a good > time to rectify this to lesses the impact should this draft be accepted as a > standards track document. Of course, there are manual ways of segregating > the multi-access networks to avoid down-level routers from receiving > multicast packets for non-zero instances. Perhaps, we should discuss these > in the draft and dispense with the more radical discussions of requesting > new multicast addresses or other IANA code points. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > On Jan 24, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote: > > Hi Acee, > > I wanted to know if this draft was backward compatible with current > implementation. If its not, I was also eager to know, if we have a way > for incremental deployment. > > Thanks, > Vishwas > _______________________________________________ OSPF mailing list OSPF@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
- [OSPF] draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Vishwas Manral
- [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Acee Lindem
- [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Vishwas Manral
- [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Acee Lindem
- [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Vishwas Manral
- RE: [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Sina Mirtorabi
- [OSPF] Re: draft-acee-ospf-multi-instance-00 Acee Lindem