Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-05.txt
alok <alok.dube@APARA.COM> Fri, 31 January 2003 17:27 UTC
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From: alok <alok.dube@APARA.COM>
Subject: Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-05.txt
Comments: cc: "d.deepak" <d.deepak@indiatimes.com>
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so As MR deepak said ccing him no neighbour router suppout for this, (even one) nomore owrking of draft? ciao alok ----- Original Message ----- From: Acee Lindem <acee@REDBACK.COM> To: <OSPF@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:52 PM Subject: Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-05.txt > Hi Alok, > > Let me attempt to address your points inline below. > > alok wrote: > > Hi, > > > > there is something which I would appreciate if someone could clarify > > > > > > 1. what is "restarting" and what is "after restarting" state? essentially my > > concern being: > > > > page 2 > > > > (2) The restarting router runs its OSPF routing calculations, as > > specified in Section 16 of [1]. This is necessary to > > return any OSPF virtual links to operation. However, the > > restarting router does *not* install OSPF routes into the > > system's forwarding table(s), instead relying on the > > forwarding entries that it had installed prior to the > > restart. > > > > what does point 2 mean? > > Conceptually, you have to have an OSPF route table that is independent > of the forwarding table(s). Virtual links will be marked UP as soon as there > is a transit area route to the virtual link's endpoint ABR. A restarting > router cannot update the forwarding table until it exits graceful restart. > > > > > again mentioned on 2.3 point 3, it says after it has "exited restart state" > > the routes will be put in the FT. > > > > what defines hitless restart time is the "grace period" which means "the > > router wont originate LSAs till LSRefreshtimer" : > > In order to avoid > > the restarting router's LSAs from aging out, the grace period > > should not exceed LSRefreshTime (1800 second) > > The grace interval expiring is only one of many reasons to exit graceful > restart. > > > > > > > .....which anyways is the default operation if there is no topology change. > > (i hope I am right here) > > > > doing it this way implies that if there is a topology change elsewhere when > > the router is down, we would wait till the "old LSAs the router was > > orginating" become stale......to update the FT. > > Nope - if we receive a copy of our LSA that is inconsistent with the > pre-restart copy we will exit graceful restart immediately. See 2.2 (2). > > > > > so why "wait" for that time at all before updating the FT > > > > would making the simple test be "grace period is over as soon as OSPF > > reestablishes adjacencies and time passed since the begininning of restart > > is less than MinLSinterval"..hence start populating the FT with the new > > entries.... > > An OSPF router will exit graceful restart prior to the grace interval if > it establishes all its prior adjacencies. See 2.2 (1). There are also > some implementation dependent wait condition relating to route redistribution > but those are beyond the scope of this document. > > > > > > is my interpretation correct? > > > > -rgds > > Alok > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Acee Lindem <acee@REDBACK.COM> > > To: <OSPF@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:28 PM > > Subject: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-05.txt > > > > > > > >>This is the start of a Working Group last call for > >>draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-05.txt, OSPF Hitless Restart. > >>All comments must be sent to the OSPF list by Friday, > >>February 8th, 2003. > >> > >>A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ospf-hitless-restart-05.txt > >> > >>My previous list posting on this WG last call was lost or > >>filtering. My apologies if this is a duplicate. > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Acee & Rohit > >>-- > >>Acee > >> > > > > > > > -- > Acee >
- Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-hitle… Acee Lindem
- Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-h… alok
- Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-h… Acee Lindem
- Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-h… alok
- Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-h… Acee Lindem
- Re: Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-ospf-h… alok