Re: [P2PSIP] Broken Stop and Wait Algorithm?
"Michael Chen" <michaelc@idssoftware.com> Fri, 18 October 2013 22:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Broken Stop and Wait Algorithm?
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Roland, Your fragment re-assembler must tolerate duplicate fragments, because it is the nature of the UDP transport. By comparison, ACK is never repeated. The sequence number must always incremented so that the receiver can build the FramedMessage.received bitmask for the last 32 fragments. Thanks --Michael --------- Original Message --------- Subject: [P2PSIP] Broken Stop and Wait Algorithm? From: "Roland Bless" <roland.bless@kit.edu> Date: 10/18/13 12:46 pm To: "P2PSIP WG" <p2psip@ietf.org> Hi all, while implementing more of the RELOAD protocol we came across the following issue: In sec. 6.6.3.1. Stop and Wait Sender Algorithm http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-p2psip-base-26#section-6.6.3.1 the spec says: For each retransmission, the sequence number MUST be incremented. Retransmissions continue until a response is received, or until a total of 5 requests have been sent or there has been a hard ICMP error [RFC1122] or a TLS alert. The sender knows a response was received when it receives an ACK with a sequence number that indicates it is a response to one of the transmissions of this messages. This would cause potential duplicates at the receiving side: A B ---------> FramedMsg #1 -------> ---> deliver FramedMsg #1 |*drop* <-- Ack #1 ><---------- (A: timeout + retransmit) ---------> FramedMsg #2 -------> ---> deliver FramedMsg #2 (same as above, i.e. *duplicate*). <----------- Ack #2 ><----------- (A: ack received, transmit next frame) ---------> FramedMsg #3 -------> ---> deliver FramedMsg #3 Given the current scheme, the receiver cannot distinguish between the retransmitted frame (#2) and a new one (#3). What was the reason to use _new_ sequence numbers for retransmissions? Unless you increment the sequence number by more than 5 for each _new_ frame, the receiving side could not filter out duplicates. Did I miss something? Regards, Roland _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list P2PSIP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
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