[p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS?
adamfisk at gmail.com (Adam Fisk) Tue, 21 November 2006 19:25 UTC
From: "adamfisk at gmail.com"
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:25:35 -0500
Subject: [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS?
In-Reply-To: <030601c70d9e$60cbc7b0$640fa8c0@cis.neustar.com>
References: <f40963db0611211030n79457435p459636a0af71eb5d@mail.gmail.com> <030601c70d9e$60cbc7b0$640fa8c0@cis.neustar.com>
Message-ID: <f40963db0611211125t3bea2aebo5f4bf59a48956d8a@mail.gmail.com>
> I don't know what you are smoking. > The good weed. The point of a Distributed Hash Table is that no one node has the whole > thing, and the network can maintain the database if individual nodes go > down. Any form of classic SIP registration doesn't do anything like that; > you are registered at ONE registrar, and if that registrar becomes > unavailable, you can't get calls. Commercial implementations often use > redundant databases and proxies to make their registration service reliable, > but you can' use classic registration to do the kind of peer to peer things > a DHT will do. > OK, let's step back for a moment. I'm making a pretty simple suggestion here to offer what to me is the primary benefit of p2p SIP, namely low cost telephony for the masses, with a much simpler implementation. In this system, every node would be a dynamic DNS client. Every node would be registered with some non-firewalled peer(s) out there. If that connection is severed, the client connects to a new non-firewalled registrar and updates the DNS. It's as simple as that. The problem isn't necessarily you losing connection to a registrar, it's > your peer being unable to connect to your registrar and thus being unable to > contact you. > That's where DNS comes in. Your peer just calls you as your peer normally would. The fundamental robustness is that the database is distributed and > replicated; any node can get you to any part of the database even when peers > come and go. > The system I just described does the same thing, and it does it using existing technology that's far less complicated. -Adam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/p2p-sip/attachments/20061121/bf3f4df5/attachment.html
- [p2p-sip] Secure decentralized name resolution? (… Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Karst Bjorgson
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Gustavo García Bernardo
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Karst Bjorgson
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Philip Matthews
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Saikat Guha
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Mehdi MANI
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Marshall Eubanks
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? David A. Bryan
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Spencer Dawkins
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Gustavo García Bernardo
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Victor Pascual Ávila
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Spencer Dawkins
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Doubt in draft draft-bryan-sipping-p2p-… Darshan Bildikar
- [p2p-sip] Doubt in draft draft-bryan-sipping-p2p-… Jean-François Wauthy
- [p2p-sip] Doubt in draft draft-bryan-sipping-p2p-… Matt Lepinski
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Saikat Guha
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Philip Matthews
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] High security use cases (was: Re: Fwd: … Karst Bjorgson
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Karst Bjorgson
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Victor Pascual Ávila
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Secure decentralized name resolution? (… David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Secure decentralized name resolution? (… Bill Mccormick
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Secure decentralized name resolution? (… Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Secure decentralized name resolution? (… Frank W. Miller
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Eunsoo Shim
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Frank W. Miller
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Frank W. Miller
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Frank W. Miller
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Spencer Dawkins
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Frank W. Miller
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Spencer Dawkins
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Eric Rescorla
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Sean Olson
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Sean Olson
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adam Fisk
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henning Schulzrinne
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] what's wrong with DNS? Ed Pimentel
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Marshall Eubanks
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? David Barrett
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? EdPimentl
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henning Schulzrinne
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adrian Georgescu
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Spencer Dawkins
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Eunsoo Shim
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Drage, Keith Keith
- [p2p-sip] Fwd: what's wrong with DNS? Adrian Georgescu