[payload] Progressing draft-ramalho-payload-g7110-00
"Michael Ramalho (mramalho)" <mramalho@cisco.com> Wed, 10 August 2011 16:41 UTC
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Dear AVTEXT and PAYLOAD list members, At IETF 81 I presented the initial draft for G.711.0 payload format (draft-ramalho-payload-g7110-00). This email solicits opinions for continuing the work in this draft. This draft had the usual detail expected in a payload format draft PLUS some recommendations and use cases for employing the (lossless and stateless) G.711.0 compression "in the middle" of an end-to-end G.711 call/session. The rough consensus I interpreted from presenting the G.711.0 draft was that this draft should be split into two drafts: 1 - A "G.711.0 only" payload format draft (mostly the existing draft without Section 6). and 2 - A "G.711.0 use cases / best practices" draft describing use of G.711.0 in the middle of an end-to-end G.711 call (mostly Section 6). >>>ISSUE 1: Any objection to this partitioning or other suggestion? Furthermore, it has been suggested that the former be a AVT PAYLOAD draft (e.g. draft-ramalho-payload-g7110-01) and the latter be a AVT EXT draft (e.g., draft-ramalho-avtext-g7110usecases-00). >>>>ISSUE 2: Any objection to partitioning the draft into two drafts targeted for two different IETF AVT WGs or other suggestion? The idea (which I agree with) is that the payload draft be targeted to be an eventual standards track RFC and the avtext draft be targeted to be an informational RFC. This suggestion was only briefly mentioned at the meeting, but was supported in my discussions afterwards. >>>>ISSUE 3: Any comments on this goal? Assuming the partitioning proposed above is accepted, the only significant open items for the G.711.0 payload format draft are: OPEN ITEM 1 - Is the specification of multiple G.711.0 "channels" within a single G.711.0 RTP session desired? If so, is the proposed method acceptable (reserving a presently unused "prefix code" as a channel delimiter and changing the decoding heuristic in Section 4.2.3)? and OPEN ITEM 2 - The specification of the storage mode for long recordings. >>>>ISSUE 4: Any commentary on the above issues are welcome. Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions you have. Michael Ramalho Michael Ramalho Technical Leader Product Development mramalho@cisco.com <mailto:mramalho@cisco.com> Phone: +1 919 476 2038 Mobile: +1 941 544 2844 Cisco Systems, Inc. 4564 Tuscana Drive Sarasota, FL 34241-4201 United States http://ramalho.webhop.info Skype: mramalho_mar42 Think before you print. This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html <http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html>
- [payload] Progressing draft-ramalho-payload-g7110… Michael Ramalho (mramalho)
- Re: [payload] Progressing draft-ramalho-payload-g… Noboru Harada
- Re: [payload] Progressing draft-ramalho-payload-g… Michael Ramalho (mramalho)
- Re: [payload] Progressing draft-ramalho-payload-g… Noboru Harada
- Re: [payload] Progressing draft-ramalho-payload-g… Michael Ramalho (mramalho)