Re: [Pce] Experimental Codepoints allocation in PCEP registry

Hi Adrian,

> How would you all feel about 8? (My instinct is to push for 4, but I can
> pre-emptively compromise :-)

I can work with 8 :)

Regards,
Dhruv

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
> Sent: 15 June 2016 23:52
> To: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dhody@huawei.com>; 'Ramon Casellas'
> <ramon.casellas@cttc.es>; pce@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Pce] Experimental Codepoint allocation in PCEP registry
> 
> To Ramon's point...
> 
> > We do need to reach a consensus on what range to set aside.
> 
> Yes, we do. Both to satisfy ourselves and to get past the current IESG (not
> the one that approved the MANET registry).
> 
> I think you captured the essence. There should be enough code points to run
> the parallel experiments that need to be run together, but not so many that
> experiments that don't need to be run at the same time can grab values and
> expect to keep them. Essentially, before running an experiment all
> participants should get together to agree what values to use, and then when
> the experiment is over they should consider the values to have no meaning
> (until the next and completely different experiment).
> 
> As far as I can see, 30 messages looks like a complete orgy of experimentation!
> Four times more active experimentation in one experimental network than in
> the whole of the standardised and soon-to-be standardised history of PCEP.
> 
> How would you all feel about 8? (My instinct is to push for 4, but I can
> pre-emptively compromise :-)
> 
> Adrian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody
> > Sent: 10 June 2016 11:03
> > To: Ramon Casellas; pce@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Pce] Experimental Codepoint allocation in PCEP registry
> >
> > Hi Ramon,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Casellas
> > > Sent: 10 June 2016 14:42
> > > To: pce@ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Pce] Experimental Codepoint allocation in PCEP
> > > registry
> > >
> > > Hi Dhruv, Jeff, all
> > >
> > > Indeed. Having been involved in PCE-related experimental and
> > > research activities I would welcome this and could be very helpful.
> > > It will not solve the issues but at least it defines the ranges.
> > >
> > > I can't provide much feedback, just curious about the rationale to
> > > allocate a given range e.g. 224-255 > 30 messages, etc.
> >
> > [Dhruv] You hit the jackpot.... we wanted to get the feedback of the
> > WG about this.
> >
> > IMHO we need to strike a right balance that there are enough
> > codepoints set aside for multiple parallel experimentations at a given
> > time, and not to give
> up a
> > big chunk out for experimentation that it hinders IANA allocation.
> >
> > We currently have 9 messages set by IANA, some 4 new messages in queue
> > to be sent to IANA, 13/255 ... so we do not have to worry about
> > running out any time soon :)
> >
> > BTW I could find one instance in MANET where a similar range is
> > allocated -
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5444#section-6.2
> >
> > We do need to reach a consensus on what range to set aside.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dhruv
> >
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Ramon
> > >
> > > On 10/06/2016 11:00, Jeff Tantsura wrote:
> > > > Hi Dhruv,
> > > >
> > > > Support, very much needed!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > On 6/9/16, 5:09 AM, "Pce on behalf of Dhruv Dhody"
> > > > <pce-bounces@ietf.org
> > > on behalf of dhruv.dhody@huawei.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi WG,
> > > >>
> > > >> In PCE IANA registry [http://www.iana.org/assignments/pcep] we do
> > > >> not
> > > have any codepoints for experimental usage. As we work on some new
> > experiments
> > > with PCEP (sometimes in open source platform), it would be wise to
> > > use experimental codepoints to avoid any conflict. For this purpose
> > > we have written a small draft to carve out some codepoints for
> > > experimental usage for PCEP messages, objects and TLVs.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-0
> > > >> 0
> > > >>
> > > >> Please provide your feedback.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Dhruv & Daniel
> > > >>
> > > >> -----
> > > >>
> > > >> Name:           draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints
> > >
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