Re: [Pce] Paul Wouters' Yes on draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-03: (with COMMENT)

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Thu, 04 January 2024 02:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Pce] Paul Wouters' Yes on draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-03: (with COMMENT)
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> On Jan 3, 2024, at 17:13, Paul Wouters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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> Paul Wouters has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-03: Yes
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>       Implementations that support multiple versions of the TLS protocol MUST
>       prefer to negotiate the latest version of the TLS protocol.
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> I'm a little confused why this needs to be stated as an update, as this is a
> general requirement of TLS (or any versioned protocol really)

I hear this phrase all the time: There is no document that specifies how to do protocol X with Y. You can reply that the “normal” updates procedure addresses this issue, but 99 times out of 100 times you’re going to get a quizzical look. This statement closeout that discussion.

> It might be useful to point to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8446#section-4.2.1 that deals with how
> to negotiate allowing TLS 1.2 when also supporting and preferring TLS 1.3.

I mean if everybody read and remembered all the detail … More seriously, without this document there are some I believe that wouldn’t ever have read RFC 8446 and happy move along.  I can add a ref to 4.2.1; see the following PR:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-pce/draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13/pull/20

Cheers,
spt