Re: [pcp] [BEHAVE] PREFIX64 PCP Option for NAT64: draft-boucadair-pcp-nat64-prefix64-option

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Fri, 07 September 2012 23:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pcp] [BEHAVE] PREFIX64 PCP Option for NAT64: draft-boucadair-pcp-nat64-prefix64-option
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> > * PCP is needed for NAT64 to accept incoming connections/hosting
> > servers/reduce keepalive messages/etc.
> 
> Only if an operator chooses to provide these goodies to hosts; I have
> no evidence that says all operators who deploy NAT64 are ok to allow
> incoming connections/hosting services/helping hosts to reduce keepalive
> signaling. I do hope PCP finds its place in networks and helps save
> battery etc, but it is not something that can be assumed to happen
> (always).

The MAP Opcode allows those incoming connections, which is separate
from the PEER Opcode to optimize keepalives.  It would be annoying
to implementers, but I could imagine some network operators deploying
a PCP server with PEER enabled but with MAP disabled.  I would
imagine the network operators that, today, find excuses to rotate
their subscriber's IP addresses every day would be among those 
operators that will not allow MAP but might allow PEER.

-d