Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00
Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr> Fri, 08 October 2010 22:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00
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In your previous mail you wrote: > "Static entries" mentioned above apply also for PCP-instructed ones. => I agree with Mohamed, here the term static is the strict opposite of the dynamic one, and port forwarding entries are 'static' even they can get a lifetime. I disagree according to http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-behave-v6v4-framework/ "State: "State" refers to dynamic information that is stored in a network element. For example, if two systems are communicating using a TCP connection, each stores information about the connection, which is called "connection state". In this context, the term refers to dynamic correlations between IP addresses on either side of a translator, or {IP address, transport protocol, transport port number} tuples on either side of the translator. Of stateful algorithms, there are at least two major flavors depending on the kind of state they maintain:" PCP entries are clearly dynamic state created by protocol exchange => but not 'dynamic state' in the behave meaning where everything not in the forwarding plane is qualified as 'static'. Regards Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr PS: I like the security point of view because it makes very clear port forwarding entries and behave dynamic states are two very different things.
- [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 mohamed.boucadair
- [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-pcp-… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 Dayong Guo
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] draft-wing-pcp-proposed-packet-format-00 Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Dan Wing
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re:draft-wing-p… Dong Zhang
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Francis Dupont
- Re: [pcp] PCP Failure Scenarios - Re: draft-wing-… Dan Wing