Re: [pcp] TR: I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-05.txt

["Reinaldo Penno (repenno)" <[e-mail]>]

In all fairness this does not quite answers the question. What precludes
every single appellation from requesting their flows to be checkpointerd
and defeating the original purpose of the new option.

On 10/21/14, 11:13 AM, "Suresh Kumar Vinapamula Venkata"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi Prashanth, 
>
>Thanks for your comment.
>
>It is not just the application alone, it is application and end user of
>that application(where ever applicable) decides if a flow associated with
>that application is business critical.
>An application may have a default setting, and may be programmable by end
>user. Way to program the application is application specific, such as,
>
>1) Change default settings while installing that application.
>2) Popup window to confirm when ever an application is launched.
>3) Some of them are critical and will not be altered. Say for example a
>call to 911 is critical.
>Etc...
>
>Configuration of these settings are very similar to configuration of
>location services by various apps in your iPhone, options to handle popup
>windows in browsers etc...
>
>-Suresh
>
>
>On 10/21/14 5:52 AM, "Prashanth Patil (praspati)" <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>>My concern with the proposal is that that an application will always
>>choose to checkpoint its flows. Why would an application ever consider
>>otherwise i.e. consider its flow not critical?
>>The draft suggests "Administration SHOULD restrict the number of
>>connections that can be elected to be backed up and the rate of
>>check-pointing on per PCP client.", which doesn¹t really address the
>>above
>>problem.
>>
>>
>>-Prashanth
>>
>>On 10/21/14 12:22 PM, "[e-mail]"
>><[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>An updated version is available online. (comments received during the
>>>interim meeting were addressed in a previous version)
>>>
>>>This version is ready for adoption.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Med
>>>
>>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>>De : I-D-Announce [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de
>>>[e-mail]
>>>Envoyé : mardi 21 octobre 2014 08:06
>>>À : [e-mail]
>>>Objet : I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-05.txt
>>>
>>>
>>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>>directories.
>>>
>>>
>>>        Title           : Application-Initiated Flow High Availability
>>>Awareness through PCP
>>>        Authors         : Suresh Vinapamula
>>>                          Senthil Sivakumar
>>>                          Mohamed Boucadair
>>>                          Tirumaleswar Reddy
>>>	Filename        : draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-05.txt
>>>	Pages           : 9
>>>	Date            : 2014-10-20
>>>
>>>Abstract:
>>>   This document specifies a mechanism for a host to signal via Port
>>>   Control Protocol (PCP) which connections should be protected against
>>>   network failures.  These connections will be elected to be subject to
>>>   high availability mechanisms enabled at the network side.
>>>
>>>   This approach assumes that applications/users have more visibility
>>>   about sensitive connections rather than any heuristic that can be
>>>   enabled at the network side to guess which connections should be
>>>   secured.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vinapamula-flow-ha/
>>>
>>>There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-05
>>>
>>>A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-05
>>>
>>>
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>>>submission
>>>until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>
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