Re: [pcp] Posted auth req slide that was edited during meeting

<yoshihiro.ohba@toshiba.co.jp> Wed, 27 March 2013 03:12 UTC

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From: yoshihiro.ohba@toshiba.co.jp
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I agree to enforce in servers that clients cannot send messages using expired SAs to avoid security issues.

For the same reason, we should also enforce in clients that servers cannot send messages using expired SAs.

Yoshihiro Ohba

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Thaler [mailto:dthaler@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:09 AM
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Subject: RE: [pcp] Posted auth req slide that was edited during meeting


> -----Original Message-----
> From: pcp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of 
> Sam Hartman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:58 AM
> To: yoshihiro.ohba@toshiba.co.jp
> Cc: pcp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [pcp] Posted auth req slide that was edited during 
> meeting
> 
> I'm sorry, but I think it's totally reasonable to mandate in a spec 
> and enforce in servers that PCP clients cannot send messages using expired SAs.
[...]

(With no hats on) I agree with the above.   It's totally reasonable to mandate
such a thing, if that's what the WG decides to do.

-Dave