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Re: [perpass] privacy implications of UUIDs for IoT devices

Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org> Thu, 06 October 2016 04:59 UTC

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From: Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org>
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Thread-Topic: [perpass] privacy implications of UUIDs for IoT devices
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On 6 Oct 2016, at 09:44, "John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> In article <CY1PR03MB2265659F67817DF02F3FCF29A3C70@CY1PR03MB2265.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> you write:
>> The issue with IEEE MAC's is that it's sent to untrusted observers, not that it is a stable identifier per se.
>> It just so happens that you typically don't have a choice but to send it in packets such that it can be observed
>> by untrusted observers, hence the need to use randomized MACs.
> 
> It's not just that, it's that MACs have a structure and there's a
> registry of prefixes so you can look at a MAC and know who the
> manufacturer is and usually what kind of device it is.  For example,
> prefix 2C-BE-08 is Apple, and anything with that prefix is probably a
> Macbook.
> 
> If the unique ID is a version 4 UUID with no structure, I'd think
> those particular problems would go away.  There may well still be
> stuff you can derive from knowing that this device now is the same
> as that device then.

+1 ; any time you have a unique/linkable identifier that is sent without the user's knowledge/involvement, it undermines users' agency and therefore the trustworthiness of the system as a whole.

Yrs.,
Robin

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