Re: [perpass] TCP Stealth (Was: I-D Action: draft-kirsch-ietf-tcp-stealth-00.txt

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Mon, 18 August 2014 13:56 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Christian Grothoff <grothoff@gnunet.org>
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Subject: Re: [perpass] TCP Stealth (Was: I-D Action: draft-kirsch-ietf-tcp-stealth-00.txt
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:49:15PM +0200,
 Christian Grothoff <grothoff@gnunet.org> wrote 
 a message of 100 lines which said:

> Eh, this is a port knocking scheme.

You don't knock a single port and you still call it "port knocking"?
It seems a very broad definition.