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Scott W Brim <swb@employees.org> Fri, 20 January 2006 08:09 UTC

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On 01/16/2006 15:12 PM, Elwyn Davies allegedly wrote:
> Pekka Savola wrote:
>> 1) I still can't believe P6 wasn't removed already.  The bar for
>> making process change proposals is too high already -- why should we
>> need to add, "oh by the way, please redesign our current process
>> documents while you're at it.. THANKS!".  This doesn't seem productive.
>>
>>    P6. The revised process should be documented in a new set of coherent
>>        and comprehensive documents, rather than updates to the existing
>>        ad hoc set.
>>
>>
> Apologies; That is a dropoff.  P6 was *supposed* to have vanished.  I
> think that actually this a part of the problems and you will find that
> there is a new item 10 in the problems.

But P6 is still a good idea, wouldn't you say?

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