Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies-pesci-initial-considerations-01.txt]
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Mon, 16 January 2006 15:37 UTC
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Pekka, >> From Principles, P4 is indeed a tricky one. I'd say that "Formal > > consent from [current leadership]" is too strong wording. I'd say that > they must be allowed to comment on the proposal. Whether they could > consent to it or not is IMHO irrelevant. The whole point is that if > there would be IETF consensus for making the choice, I'm not sure > whether it's OK that any of {IESG,IAB,IAOC} alone should be able to > block the process. (I'd be OK if some form of consent was needed from a > majority of the bodies.) Yes, this is certainly a tricky point. You can imagine the mess if a change was agreed by a new process that the IESG decided was completely unworkable, or that would cost $500,000 extra in secretariat work. But note, this does not say *approval* by [current leadership]. It says consent. We could define the rules for consent in a different way from the normal rules for approval of technical documents (e.g. a simple majority vote, with nothing like a Discuss option). Brian _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies-pes… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Elwyn Davies
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-davies… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-davies-… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-davies-… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-davies-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-davies-… Susan Harris
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-davies-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-davies-… Susan Harris
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] [Fwd:I-D ACTION:draft-davies-… Adrian Farrel