Re: [pim] Last Call: <draft-ietf-pim-rfc4601bis-03.txt> (Protocol Independent Multicast - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM): Protocol Specification (Revised)) to Internet Standard

Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Fri, 27 February 2015 19:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pim] Last Call: <draft-ietf-pim-rfc4601bis-03.txt> (Protocol Independent Multicast - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM): Protocol Specification (Revised)) to Internet Standard
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Bill,

Thanks for the good review and catches!
I'd like to see the draft updated before March 5 so that it can still
make the telechat on March 12.

Regards,
Alia

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:04 PM, William Atwood <william.atwood@concordia.ca
> wrote:

> In the following, I will refer to draft-ietf-pim-4601bis as simply
> "4601bis".
>
> RFC 4601 has been updated by several RFCs:
>
> RFC 5059 Bootstrap Router (BSR) Mechanism for Protocol
>          Independent Multicast (PIM)
> RFC 5796 Authentication and Confidentiality in Protocol
>          Independent Multicast Sparse Mode (PIM-SM)
>          Link-Local Messages
> RFC 6226 PIM Group-to-Rendezvous-Point Mapping
>
> 4601bis refers to RFC 5059 in Section 3.7.  The new text is identical to
> the text in RFC 4601, although the reference in RFC 4601 is to the
> Internet Draft that became RFC 5059.
>
> 4601bis makes no reference to RFC 5796.  Given that RFC 5796 alters the
> preferred IPsec solution (AH is "recommended" in RFC 4601, while RFC
> 5796 says that implementations "MUST support ESP and MAY support AH"),
> and given that RFC 5796 provides considerable detail on the use of IPsec
> to protect link-local messages for PIM-SM, RFC 5796 should be
> specifically referenced in Section 6.3 of 4601bis.
>
> 4601bis makes no reference to RFC 6226.  Given that RFC 6226 alters the
> algorithm for determining the Rendezvous Point, RFC 6226 should be
> specifically mentioned in Section 3.7 of 4601bis.  The authors should
> also consider whether to eliminate Section 4.7.1 and replace it with a
> pointer to RFC 6226, to reduce it and add a pointer to RFC 6226, or to
> leave it unchanged.
>
> Suggested text for some of these changes has been supplied to the
> authors of 4601bis.
>
>   Bill Atwood
>
>
> On 13/02/2015 12:42 PM, The IESG wrote:
> >
> > The IESG has received a request from the Protocol Independent Multicast
> > WG (pim) to consider the following document:
> > - 'Protocol Independent Multicast - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM): Protocol
> >    Specification (Revised)'
> >   <draft-ietf-pim-rfc4601bis-03.txt> as Internet Standard
> >
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-02-27. Exceptionally, comments may
> be
> > sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
> > beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> >
> > Abstract
> >
> >
> >    This document specifies Protocol Independent Multicast - Sparse Mode
> >    (PIM-SM).  PIM-SM is a multicast routing protocol that can use the
> >    underlying unicast routing information base or a separate multicast-
> >    capable routing information base.  It builds unidirectional shared
> >    trees rooted at a Rendezvous Point (RP) per group, and optionally
> >    creates shortest-path trees per source.
> >
> >    This document addresses errata filed against RFC 4601, and removes
> >    the optional (*,*,RP) feature that lacks sufficient deployment
> >    experience.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The file can be obtained via
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-rfc4601bis/
> >
> > IESG discussion can be tracked via
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-rfc4601bis/ballot/
> >
> >
> > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
> >
> >
>
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