[Policy] Re: FW: [Diffserv] Informal WG last call for draft-ietf-diffserv-new-terms-06.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com> Thu, 15 November 2001 13:59 UTC

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Given that new-terms will be Informational, I don't think we have to
beat this to death- Dan could perhaps craft some disclaimer text.

(Also, by the way, Informational RFCs don't have to worry about
the difference between normative and non-normative references.)

  Brian

Dan Grossman wrote:
> 
> > Pulling everything up here.  It looks like #4 needs a bit more discussion -
> > however, it is not a major issue for me.
> >
> <snip>
> > 4. Service provisioning policy "defines and manages to parameters and range
> > of values" in an SLS.  Dan asked how rules can manage to parameters and
> > ranges.
> >       - This really depends on your rules.  For static "preconfiguration" rules,
> > then all that you are doing is defining what you want, and making it so.  In
> > the more general case of provisioning rules, you might have
> > "preconfiguration" rules, and other "runtime" rules that are invoked "if
> > <something happens>."  If/when something happens, then the actions of the
> > other rules might manipulate the environment to maintain (ie, "manage to")
> > the parameters and ranges, or switch to new parameters, or ignore
> > parameters/ranges, etc.  I was asking about whether we should generalize
> > what a "provisioning rule" might do.
> 
> Wow!  I'm struggling with the implications of that.  I'd assumed that to the
> extent that an SLS had dynamic ("runtime") elements, the new parameter/value
> tuples would be within the constraints of the same rules as the old SLS (that
> is, the rules are simple, static and non-dependent).
> 
> In any event, this seems like  a difficult construct to explain (both as
> sentence structure and as a concept).  If we were to put something like this
> in, it would need some explanation.  Otherwise, I'll be bombarded with the
> same newbie questions about this sentence until I'm 80.  Is this important
> enough to provide more text around?
> 
> Dan

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