RE: Next Generation CO-PS layer network technology?
Akiva Sadovski <akiva@AXERRA.com> Wed, 17 December 2003 06:33 UTC
From: Akiva Sadovski <akiva@AXERRA.com>
Subject: RE: Next Generation CO-PS layer network technology?
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Hi Maarten, thank you for very interesting NG CO-PS summary. 1) However i'm wondering whether we really need *both* SNCP and SPRing at initial stages of NG CO-PS development. 2) As far as i know, there were some SNCP-like mechanisms for Ethernet under development, like draft-shah-extreme-eaps-00.txt My 2c, Akiva Sadovski > -----Original Message----- > From: Maarten.Vissers@alcatel.de [mailto:Maarten.Vissers@alcatel.de] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:05 PM > To: stds-802-1@ieee.org; tsg15q12@itu.int; pwe3@ietf.org > Subject: [PWE3] Next Generation CO-PS layer network technology? > > > As we are approaching the end of the year 2003 and many of use looking > forward to one or more weeks of vacation (to get rid of all left over > vacation days), I would like to provide some food for your thoughts > under the Christmas tree. > > INTRODUCTION > ------------ > I have the feeling that 2004 will become known in history as the year > in which we selected/developed the Next Generation Connection Oriented > Packet Switched (NG CO-PS) layer network technology, which will be the > successor of FR and ATM. I would therefore like to initiate a > discussion > on this topic. > > CURRENT LANDSCAPE > ----------------- > When I look at the current NG CO-PS landscape, I see four alternatives > that are being considered, discussed, investigated, developped and/or > installed: > > 1) CO-PS MPLS (switched MPLS) > 2) CO-PS ETH/VLAN (switched Ethernet/switched VLAN) > 3) CO-PS GFP (switched GFP) > 4) something new. > > The first three alternatives have as starting point the > re-use/multi-use of existing popular frame/packet formats: > 1) MPLS packet with its shim header (label, EXP, S, TTL): > 2) tagged MAC frame (ethertype, VLAN ID, priority, CFI) > 3) GFP-F frame with linear extension header (Channel ID, spare). > > BASIC NG CO-PS CHARACTERISTICS > ------------------------------ > NG CO-PS frame/packet format needs to support the following fields: > a) tributary slot identifier (label, VLAN ID, channel ID) > b) class of service/dropping precedence (EXP, priority) > > NG CO-PS frame/packet format needs to support the following > networking capability: > c) multi-level hierarchy (tunneling) capability to allow it to > be used in (metro-)access, metro(-core) and core networks. > > NG CO_PS technology needs to support connection monitoring according > the G.805 paradigm; this includes: > d) connection monitoring for each (tunnel) level in the hierarchy > e) multi-level (nested) connection monitoring capability for user > connections, to allow dedicated connection monitoring for user, > service provider and network operator(s) as well as for protection > and restoration. > f) pro-active fault management and performance monitoring OAM for > user connections and hierarchy levels (tunnels) > g) on-demand fault localisation OAM for user connections and > hierarchy levels. > > Note: Non intrusive monitoring of any connection monitoring level at > an intermediate point in the connection for the service provider is a > requirement for today's SDH/SONET and OTH networks, in the > absence of a > standard "service management" architecture. With the work on the > Architecture for Services Management (G.asm) being started in Q.12/15, > the NG CO-PS may not require this non-intrusive connection monitoring > of any connection monitoring level. This removes a significant > requirement. > > NG CO-PS technology needs to support connection oriented protection > and restoration; this includes: > h) subnetwork connection protection (SNCP) > i) ring protection (SPRing). > > NG CO-PS layer network needs to support: > j) client/server relationships (mapping, network interworking) > k) G.805 layer network interworking (service interworking) > with existing CO-PS layer network technologies. > > > EVALUATION OF CURRENT FRAME FORMATS > ----------------------------------- > The MPLS packet format is considered as it provides the > closest match with > the basic characteristics required for the NG CO-PS technology. > a) trib slot id: 20-bit label > b) CoS/DP: 3-bit EXP > c) hierarchy: infinite tunneling capability > d) tunnel conn. mon.: MPLS OAM > e) nested conn. mon.: MPLS OAM > f) pro-active fm/pm: MPLS OAM (CV, FFD, FDI, BDI) > g) on-demand fault loc.: MPLS OAM (ping) > h) SNCP: MPLS protection switching > Further enhancements/extensions are required. > i) SPRing: to be developed > j) mapping: IP: available, ATM, FR, ETH: under development > k) LN IW: MPLS/ATM, MPLS/FR under development. > By using MPLS as the NG CO-PS packet format, the "M" in MPLS > gets a second > meaning; this "M" originally referred to it being a protocol > that can ride > over multiple server layer protocols, with the deployment as > NG CO-PS it > also refers to multiple client layer protocols that can ride over it. > > > The Ethernet MAC tagged frame format is considered due to the low cost > of today's ethernet interface ports. The Ethernet MAC frame > is developed > for use in bridged-ethernet networks; its use as NG CO-PS > would require a > number of extensions: > a) trib slot id: 12-bit VLAN ID > b) CoS/DP: 3-bit priority > c) hierarchy: potential VLAN stacking capability > Requires new CO-PS VLAN tags to be defined; QTag and > STag should not be used as these are for > bridged-ethernet, not > for switched-ethernet/VLAN. > d) tunnel conn. mon.: to be developed > e) nested conn. mon.: to be developed > f) pro-active fm/pm: to be developed > g) on-demand fault loc.: to be developed. > The current bridged-ETH OAM development in Q.3/13 may be > the basis for d) to f) > h) SNCP: to be developed > i) SPRing: to be developed > j) mapping: IP, MPLS: available, ATM, FR: ? > k) LN IW: ETH/ATM, ETH/FR, ETH/MPLS to be developed? > x) development of connection oriented VLAN switching. > Switched-Ethernet/VLAN will use the ethernet MAC frame as > encapsulation > format for multiple client signals. The implication of this is to be > understood. > > > The GFP-F frame format is considered as it is the latest frame format > developed within the standards organisation (ITU-T) that traditionally > defines connection oriented layer technologies. GFP-F is an > encapsulation > frame format and its use as NG CO-PS would require a number > of extensions: > a) trib slot id: 8-bit channel ID > D.371 (SG15, 04/02) proposes a 20-bit Flow ID. > b) CoS/DP: to be developed > D.370 (SG15, 04/02) proposes a 3-bit Priority field. > c) hierarchy: to be developed > Requires capability to support stacking in the extension > header. > 58 bytes are available in the extension header > area for such > purpose. With e.g. 3-bytes per level (20-bit label, 3-bit > CoS/DP, > 1-bit bottom of stack), 19 levels can be supported. > d) tunnel conn. mon.: to be developed > e) nested conn. mon.: to be developed > f) pro-active fm/pm: to be developed > g) on-demand fault loc.: to be developed. > h) SNCP: to be developed > i) SPRing: to be developed > j) mapping: to be developed > k) LN IW: to be developed > x) development of connection oriented GFP switching. > > > CO-EXISTENCE > ------------ > For the case we will select one of the three existing > frame/packet formats > > as basis for the NG CO-PS layer network, it will have to peacefully > co-exist > with the original application; i.e. the NG CO-PS development > should not > hijack > the frame/packet format. This requires cooperation and > recognition of the > needs > of both the original and the new NG CO-PS application. > > If the current "owners" of the frame/packet formats (MPLS: > IEFT, MAC: IEEE > 802, > GFP-F: ITU-T SG15) are not able/do not want to share their > frame/packet > format > with the new NG CO-PS application, that frame/packet format > should not be > considered as a NG CO-PS frame/packet format candidate. > > I am therefore very interested to hear the opinion of the > participants of > IETF, > IEEE 802 and ITU-T SG15 on the multi-use of their > frame/packet format as > NG CO-PS > frame/packet format. > > > EQUIPMENT > --------- > The NG CO-PS layer network will introduce one additional switching > technology or > switching technology profile in the multi service switching platforms > (MSSPs). > > Some existing MSSPs may already support elements of the NG > CO-PS and/or > may be > upgradable to support NG CO-PS. Others may not support any > element of the > NG CO-PS > and may not be upgradable. That's just how life is; it should > not play a > major role > in the decision process for the NG CO-PS in my opinion. > > > Up to so far. Looking forward to your opinions on this item. > > Regards, > Maarten > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Maarten Vissers > Network and Product Strategy - Optical Networks Division > Alcatel SEL AG > Office: Lorenzstrasse 10; D-70435 Stuttgart; Germany > Home office: Simone de Beauvoirlaan 7; 1277 BE Huizen; The Netherlands > Mobile: +31 65 141 8140 > Email:Maarten.Vissers@alcatel.de > > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 >
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