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Re: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"

Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> Fri, 05 October 2012 12:42 UTC

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From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <andrew.g.malis@verizon.com>
Thread-Topic: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"
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Andy,

Lots of thanks for a prompt and clarifying response.



Regards,

     Sasha

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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:31 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"

Sasha,

Q13 was of course very busy with other matters as well during the plenary meeting, and were kind to provide this return liaison. We should use it as we would any other comments on a draft. As this is still an individual draft, the authors are free to decide among themselves whether and how to update the draft as a result (and such changes might result in you changing your opinion of the draft).

If there's ever a WG adoption poll, WG participants can (as usual) take these and other received comments into account as they review the draft and provide their own comments and opinion on WG adoption.

Cheers,
Andy

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com<mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>> wrote:
Andy,
My impression after reading the liaison from Q13/15 is that they:
- are not interested enough to go into a detailed discussion
- see multiple synchronization issues with the proposal (even if these issues are listed very briefly).

Do you think I've missed something? Possibly because I am strongly biased against this draft?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
     Sasha



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From: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org> [pwe3-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org>] on behalf of Malis, Andrew G (Andy) [andrew.g.malis@verizon.com<mailto:andrew.g.malis@verizon.com>]
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To: pwe3@ietf.org<mailto:pwe3@ietf.org>
Cc: Malis, Andrew G (Andy)
Subject: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"

This wasn't sent to the pwe3 exploder.

Cheers,
Andy

On 10/4/2012 12:24 , "Liaison Statement Management Tool" <lsmt@ietf.org<mailto:lsmt@ietf.org>>
wrote:

Title: Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on
draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²
Submission Date: 2012-10-03
URL of the IETF Web page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1200/

From: ITU-T SG 15  (Greg Jones <greg.jones@itu.int<mailto:greg.jones@itu.int>>)
To: Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge (Matthew Bocci
<matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com<mailto:matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com>>, Andrew Malis
<andrew.g.malis@verizon.com<mailto:andrew.g.malis@verizon.com>>)
Cc: Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com<mailto:stbryant@cisco.com>>,Adrian Farrel
<adrian@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>>,Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge Discussion List
<pwe3-request@ietf.org<mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org>>,John Drake <jdrake@juniper.net<mailto:jdrake@juniper.net>>,Scott Mansfield
<Scott.Mansfield@Ericsson.com>,Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com<mailto:lear@cisco.com>>,Yoichi MAEDA
<yoichi.maeda@ttc.or.jp<mailto:yoichi.maeda@ttc.or.jp>>,Steve Trowbridge
<steve.trowbridge@alcatel-lucent.com<mailto:steve.trowbridge@alcatel-lucent.com>>,ITU TSBSG15
<tsbsg15@itu.int<mailto:tsbsg15@itu.int>>,Hiroshi Ota <hiroshi.ota@itu.int<mailto:hiroshi.ota@itu.int>>
Reponse Contact: Jean-Loup Ferrant <jean-loup.ferrant@calnexsol.com<mailto:jean-loup.ferrant@calnexsol.com>>,
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